How to avoid NTSC to PAL conversion "jerking"?

[mircan 0]

Hi,
one of the camera guys at my DZ that I`m editing tandems for uses NTSC camera. Here TV standard is PAL. Standalone DVD players will play the discs OK on the newer TVs, but not OK on the older ones (which is not so uncommon here). In order to keep viewing compatibility i create PAL DVDs. Result of this NTSC/PAL conversion sometimes is "jerkiness" in output file. Is there any way to avoid this or just make it less noticeable?
I`m using Premiere Pro CS3.
Thanks.

dudeist skydiver #42

[DSE 5]

Don't use Premiere Pro CS3. Seriously.
Sony Vegas and Canopus Edius do great conversions. So does Rhozet, but it's horribly expensive for a single task.
Even the 50.00 version of Vegas does a great job at conversion.
Perfectly smooth conversions are not really possible with software, but hardware can achieve this. You're upsampling from 50 fields per second to 60 fields per second, so there will be some motion interpolation. However, resampling are what Vegas is all about. Download their demo, you'll love it.
Otherwise, buy a Faroujda box.

[mrwrong 0]

I do agree. Sony Vegas 7 is great!

I have just started editing videos so I'm nothing but fresh meat in that section but I did test Premiere and Pinnacle before Vegas.
The only thing I got from Pinnacle and Premiere was a bad case of headache.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that Premiere and Pinnacle is a piece of shit. Vegas just make sense

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[mircan 0]

OK. I will try Vegas and see the results.

Any particular reason why you advise not to use Premiere (apart from this case)? I like the Adobe apps because of the good integration with each other. I can do linking of After Effects files (in which I do titles, effects and stuff) and Premiere files (editing, transitions), Photoshop files...

Also I`ve been working in these apps for a couple of years now (can work fast, keyboard shortcuts...) and you know what`s the transition to another program like.

Off topic: reading/searching the forums, I tend to notice that a LOT of people choose not to work in Premiere, but do their work (most often) in Vegas. Can anyone comment on that? Personal preference or plain better?

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Otherwise, buy a Faroujda box.Wink

Yeah, right.

Thanx.

dudeist skydiver #42

[erikph 0]

when using premiere, choosing flicker removal in the field options when you right click a clip could give you better results.

also, adobe claims that the slomo engine in CS3 is much better than before (High-quality slow motion with time remapping) but i have never used this myself (yep, I too switched to Vegas some 2 years ago )

blue skies,

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[dragon2 2]

Personally I love premiere. I've got cs3 but so far haven't been able to make heads nor tails of it; it's somewhat different from premiere pro cs 1-2. So for the moment i stick to cs2.

How to do the pal<>ntsc thing has been described a few times here, by me among others. Don't forget to deinterlace when exporting!

ciel bleu,
Saskia

[mccordia 74]

Small handy/funny addition to the often prescribed NTSC>PAL conversion..

(just for freefall portion)

Have premiere interprite the NTSC 29,95 fps clip as a 25 fps clip in your source window. This way it wil actually become a few seconds longer, and you'll get a (slight) smooth slowmo 'for free', with no frames added or lost in the 'translation'

JC
FlyLikeBrick
I'm an Athlete?

[DSE 5]

You don't need to (and shouldn't) deinterlace if you're burning to DVD for settop playback. The difference however, is UFF vs LFF.
Premiere CS3 definitely has much better time-remapping, but that doesn't translate better to conversion.