PharmerPhil 0 #1 January 3, 2008 I have been hoping to hear something concrete about this. Keep in mind that this is not by any means official, and Apple is historically very secretive about specific product anouncements. But this Analyst (Wu) is the same one who recommended a strong buy for Apple a year ago September based on his belief that the "Apple cell phone is real and ready for production." http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/01/03/apple_set_to_ship_macs_with_blu_ray_support_report.html Apple is already on the Blu-ray board, and makes a lot of HD content creation tools. Of course there is that little company in Redmond, WA who still supports HD-DVD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #2 January 3, 2008 No one can legally tell you that he's correct. :-) Side note;November reports of BD sales came out...70% of the High Def sales were BD. December is expected to be stronger. What sucks is that DVDSP still doesn't fully support BD yet, so having to use Adobe Encore and other tools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 January 4, 2008 You make it sound like Encore is punishment or something I actually enjoyed making a DVD i nEncore once I got past the learning curve. I'm glad to see BD still wholloping on HD sales. BD is the better format but as long as studios are only releasing content on HD there is still going to be the need to have player support. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velocityphoto 0 #4 January 4, 2008 Ok so i'm working on an imac g-5 20in with 2.5 gig of ram and 2.1 processor.I am planning on shooting my hc-1 this coming season .What would you recommend for doing bluray on this system? Software? Burner? Do you have a line on a good buy for this stuff? Thanks A friend will bail you out of jail , a REAL friend will be sitting next to you in the cell slapping your hand saying "DUDE THAT WAS AWSUM " ................ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 January 4, 2008 Lonnie, unless you are wanting to charge $200 for a BlueRay its not worth it yet to do tandems in HD, I've looked at it and the cheapest I can get Blue Ray media for is still upwards of $10 a disk plus label cost. The cost of a burner is still over $450 dollars for a 2X. That is more then half the cost of a PC anymore. For every bad burn you are looking at tossing $12-15 into the gargage. I'd look at instead doing HD burns to regular DVD's for major projects next year, tandems are not there yet IMO. You lose all the menus and other things but can still deliver HD level quality. DSE has posted info on this in the past or look over at DVinfo.net, they have lots of info on this too.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #6 January 4, 2008 Almost... If the customer has BD player with "reasonably" new software (and they're easy to update), then you can burn a no-menu, standard DVD with BD content on it, and burn it on a standard DVD burner. However, if they want a BD disc, we tack 150.00 onto the price of the $75.00 jump. We've had two groups thus far, for a total of 5 Blu-ray discs delivered to tandem students. it's a short window. For the next season, we'll be able to keep this premium price in place. 2009, probably not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velocityphoto 0 #7 January 4, 2008 Is the 150.00 your cost or fee or what the dz adds ?In other words are you personally getting paid an xtra 150 on top of your normal pay? A friend will bail you out of jail , a REAL friend will be sitting next to you in the cell slapping your hand saying "DUDE THAT WAS AWSUM " ................ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PharmerPhil 0 #8 January 4, 2008 $150 sounds very cheap to me. But then again, $75 sounds too cheap for a normal video. I assume when you do a standard DVD your camera export and timeline are all SD. How much longer does the edit and render take when you have to do the whole thing in HD? How much longer does the burn take? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #9 January 4, 2008 Normally, I shoot HDV, and downconvert on capture to SD (DV) and edit that file, but I archive the jump in HD, not SD. I have this silly idea that next winter, I'll contact the students and say "Y'know...if you have an HD player, I can re-do your vid in HD for $XXX." When I shoot, capture, edit HDV, capture time is the same, editing time is the same, render time is perhaps 10% longer. In other words, I honestly don't care about which the customer wants. From my perspective, the experience is exactly identical, except for how I burn the DVD. If they want a Blu-ray disc that is MPEG2 at 35Mbps, then the render takes maybe 25% longer, but remember that we're talking a 6-8 minute file, so time isn't a consideration. If they want an AVCHD file on a standard DVD (have only delivered one of those) with no menus, render time is identical, or near identical, and the DVD burn is actually faster due to the much smaller file. So, at $225.00 for the HD jump/edit/delivery, and virtually no extra time...it works out very well, IMO. As far as the revenue share, the DZ and I are partners on the 4X BD burner, so the additional revenue is split accordingly. When we had just a 2X burner, most of the rev went to me, because I owned the burner myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velocityphoto 0 #10 January 4, 2008 So if i want to make a standard dvd disk that will play in high def on a bluray player ,what can i burn this with ? Edit in imovie,then send it to toast 8 ? If i'm understanding correctly here? A friend will bail you out of jail , a REAL friend will be sitting next to you in the cell slapping your hand saying "DUDE THAT WAS AWSUM " ................ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #11 January 4, 2008 Edit in iMovie, render as AVCHD, create ISO in any number of products such as Toast. Burn to standard DVD 5. BD will see it, if the software is up to date. For the BD300 (older model) software only needs to be 2.5, which all shipping 300's currently are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PharmerPhil 0 #12 January 4, 2008 More good news for Blu-ray from Warner Brothers who today announced that they would release movies only in Blu-ray going forward. They had previously been the only studio who was releasing HD disks in both formats: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080104/D8TVBARO0.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velocityphoto 0 #13 January 5, 2008 Will this play at 1080i or 1080p resolution like that? A friend will bail you out of jail , a REAL friend will be sitting next to you in the cell slapping your hand saying "DUDE THAT WAS AWSUM " ................ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #14 January 5, 2008 yes (to both) Bear in mind, there are no 1080p camcorders other than the EX1 that can be used for skydiving, but with good resampling, it's VERY easy to resample 1080i 60 to 1080p30, and it looks GREAT. This is one place the windows users have it all over the Mac users. There are currently no good resampling applications for deinterlacing 60i to 30 or 60p for the Mac, but it's coming. Red Giant's Instant HD is sorta working in FCP 6, but keeps crashing on my system. Topaz Enhance does an awesome job, but adds time, so isn't useful for tandem or quick work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velocityphoto 0 #15 January 5, 2008 Speed isn't to much of an issue for me because i don't do any editing at the dz ,only on rare occasions. I mail the video's and give them the prints and photo cd's on site. I'm just confused on doing a video on my mac here. I have older version of imovie hd 5.0.2 and i have toast 8.0.3 But i'm not able to see any of the options you mentioned to make this disk ? I have a base jumping project ready to send to disk... A friend will bail you out of jail , a REAL friend will be sitting next to you in the cell slapping your hand saying "DUDE THAT WAS AWSUM " ................ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #16 January 6, 2008 I don't have iMovie on my Macbook or desktop. sorry! According to Apple the new iMovie has MP4 output in HD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
