livenletfly 0 #1 June 13, 2003 im sure this polls been done before, but it always makes for great debate. theres alot of points for and against so lets hear them. personaly i dont have or want one .> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mofo554 0 #2 June 13, 2003 Not to be picky, but the third and fourth choices are the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livenletfly 0 #3 June 13, 2003 no dude your being real picky. the difference is answer 3 implies i dont want one. answer 4 implies i think they're dangerous. .> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asta 0 #4 June 13, 2003 I just bought a new used rig, and it has RSL. My last two rigs didn't though. I think RSL is a good thing that makes more good than bad in the long run. But personally, if I buy used gear that doesn't have it, I don't get it either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 0 #5 June 13, 2003 dont have one dont want one. I jsut a hp canopy and leave myself time for my hard deck vs opening alti (also have a cypress) and if I get a nasty spinner I dont want to be on my back when the reserve is comming out.. if I jumped a larger canopy I would use it... -yoshi_________________________________________ this space for rent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bivar 0 #6 June 13, 2003 A friend of mine would still be alive if he had one. ---------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrHixxx 0 #7 June 13, 2003 I have an elliptical and a camera on my head, so no. I have also adjusted my deployment height and hard deck to 3000 and 2000 respectfully. If I didn't have these things, I would probably have and RSL and be pulling a 1000' lower. -Hixxxdeath,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #8 June 13, 2003 Don't have one, but I will quite happily jump a rig that has one____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #9 June 13, 2003 Don't have one, nor want one. But I have done 6 cutaways. I did lose a friend who would be alive today if he had one...but he also would be alive if he pulled his reserve. I think you should have one until you have a cutaway and pulled both handles. Unless you are doing CRW, or jumping with a camera Ron edit to clear something up....pull, not land with your handles."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rgoper 0 #10 June 13, 2003 i utilzed one until my first cut-away. i don't have one now, and i can't see as i'll have any use for one in the future. i know what i'm going to do if my main deployment goes to hell. i do urge newer skydivers who have never had a main cutaway and a reserve deployment and pulled both handles to utilize one until this time.--Richard-- "We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #11 June 13, 2003 I just hooked mine back up after having it off on the first reserve repack. It's not to pull the reserve for me; I've pulled mine plenty of times, in plenty of time. It's to pull it faster than I can if I'm stupid enough to cut away low enough to need it. Think of it as stupid insurance; kind of like my Cypres. There is always a possibility of its making things worse, but with a lightly-loaded semi-elliptical and no camera, that's not a big problem. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadDog 0 #12 June 13, 2003 I used mine, until I found myself flat on my back under a spinning main and had to chop it. The reserve came out just fine, except for the line twists.................. Now my RSL is disconnected. But my AAD is still on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #13 June 13, 2003 I had mine removed after my first cuttaway, and before I started jumping camera. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geanky 0 #14 June 13, 2003 don't have one because of my canopy (elliptical, good loading) if not then i would probably have it learn to fly in 3d Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #15 June 13, 2003 QuoteNot to be picky, but the third and fourth choices are the same. Not to be even pickier, but there was no option for those who don't have one but want or intend to get one. The questions seem skewed towards an anti RSL bias, i.e. "that silent killer". Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMonkey 0 #16 June 13, 2003 And maybe an option for "gimme a skyhook" ____________________ Say no to subliminal messages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robskydiv 0 #17 June 13, 2003 I've used the RSL everytime except for three camera jumps. Now the skyhook looks like a promising development. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livenletfly 0 #18 June 14, 2003 i said right in post i do not like rsl's. im a skydiver not a journalist i dont have to be 100% un biased to take a poll. i thought it was pretty fair, 2 answers pro rsl's 2 answers anti rsl's sounds balanced to me. o well cant please everyone. p.s. "the silent killer" was qouted by bill booth some people claim he knows a thing or two about gear. anyway blueskies and fun dives> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aneblett 0 #19 June 14, 2003 There is one option that is missing. That is have one but don't use it. I didn't have one on my old rig and when I bought this one the rsl connector was free and so I had it installed but I am not currently using it. AgeS.E.X. party #2 ..It is far worse to live with fear, than to die confronting it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #20 June 14, 2003 what about don't have one, would like one?-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #21 June 14, 2003 Dont't have one, but if the Skyhook becomes available for my rig I will get it. Skyhook will get reserve out quicker without line twist.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #22 June 15, 2003 Quotei said right in post i do not like rsl's. im a skydiver not a journalist i dont have to be 100% un biased to take a poll. i thought it was pretty fair, 2 answers pro rsl's 2 answers anti rsl's sounds balanced to me. o well cant please everyone. p.s. "the silent killer" was qouted by bill booth some people claim he knows a thing or two about gear. anyway blueskies and fun dives Well hey, blue skies, fun & safe dives to one and all. I have a very high respect for anything Bill Booth has to say, didn't know this was a quote from de man hisself. I'm keeping an open mind on the topic because I'll be putting together my first rig in 22 yrs. However, if you're going to post a poll and a discussion thread on an issue that has a lot of varying opinions, it would be better to keep the line of questioning more neutral and not get so hacked off if someone questions your foregone conclusions. I once partied with a bunch of Skydive Oregon jumpers at a Grateful Dead show in Eugene. You guys are alright. Hope we'll make a load together one of these days, up there or down here. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffles 0 #23 June 15, 2003 I have one, and jump it connected, because I haven't had a cutaway yet. I wonder how many of those no-reserve-pull fatalities were "sure they could pull both handles". I also notice (skydivingfatalities.com) that there are like 35-40 of those no-pull fatals in the last 10 years compared with 2 RSL-related fatals... Interesting. Blue ones to those of you that jump without them (HPC, CRWs, cameras), but don't say I'm lame for using one; it may save my ass one day. (<---rookie) .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #24 June 15, 2003 OTOH, bill booth also recently started selling rigs with the skyhook rsl system, and i don't think he'd do that if he thought rsl's were a bad idea.7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #25 June 15, 2003 No way! It would be a silent killer for me...I love CRW....and after a FF jump, hooking up a stack is just the second half of my skydive. RSLs & CRW can be very ugly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
