Chris_K 0 #1 July 24, 2008 What are your opinions about mounting a flash on your helmet? I have discovered that it is great during sunset loads as you get the fire of the setting sun in the background yet a very clear picture of the passenger. Even during the day it helps to fill in the shadows under the nose and eyes when the sun is overhead as opposed to behind you. Only issue: in the plane dont use a flash, pilots dont like that.Downsizing is not the way to prove your manhood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #2 July 24, 2008 I have a 580exII that I can mount to my helmet to jump with, I don't do it very often though. As for using a flash in the plane, I use my camera's built in flash on every tandem video when I am taking a picture of the customer in the plane and have never had a pilot notice or complain.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris_K 0 #3 July 24, 2008 True, the camera intergrated flash is fine by most pilots, the add on flash usually has a lot more power and can cause a blinding flash for the pilot.Downsizing is not the way to prove your manhood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #4 July 24, 2008 QuoteWhat are your opinions about mounting a flash on your helmet? I have discovered that it is great during sunset loads as you get the fire of the setting sun in the background yet a very clear picture of the passenger. Even during the day it helps to fill in the shadows under the nose and eyes when the sun is overhead as opposed to behind you. Only issue: in the plane dont use a flash, pilots dont like that. Simple, they work. You won't see most of the known guys jumping without them(unless it's uncalled for). If you have space for it, it's a worthwhile addition."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linestretch 0 #5 July 24, 2008 I totally agree. I took this with an external flash and the pilot didn't complain. In fact, I've NEVER heard of a pilot complaining of a flash....unless it was a night jump. In that case, everyone would be bitching and rightly so.my pics & stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #6 July 24, 2008 I did hear a pilot and a TM after a jump they both thought it was lightning as they were jumping right before a big shower, clouds were coming in in the distance. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VictorSuvorov 0 #7 July 25, 2008 External flash adds weight and complexity (dah..) next thing you will want is an external power supply to the flash it you can price for the better quality: go for it. if not, why bother? these made with EX420 EX 580 II is alot better unit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowen 0 #8 July 25, 2008 lets see some pictures of set ups.Retired Tunnel Instructor, Sky/Tunnel Coach Former dealer for 2k Composites, Skysystems, Alti-2, Wings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #9 July 25, 2008 I've got pictures of the flash bracket made in the post your camera helmet thread http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3154613;search_string=bergh%20helmet;#3154613 I am in the process of redoing the bracket using a three point bending tool that a frend of mine has to build a plane in his garage. but it will be more or less the same design it's just going to be out of a single piece of aluminum and I might add some lighting holes to make it lighter.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #10 July 25, 2008 Quotelets see some pictures of set ups. Here's mine.. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=34497; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linestretch 0 #11 July 25, 2008 Iwan's set up is pretty clean. Mine's death...but works great. I can remove the camera and the flash stays w/ the camera for quick ground shots. (Iwan...you comin to the boogie again this year?)my pics & stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #12 July 25, 2008 Quote Iwan's set up is pretty clean. Mine's death...but works great. I can remove the camera and the flash stays w/ the camera for quick ground shots. (Iwan...you comin to the boogie again this year?) I am trying to work it in for sure!! I'll let you know.. I have some plans with that pond of yours Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #13 July 25, 2008 Quote Quote Iwan's set up is pretty clean. Mine's death...but works great. I can remove the camera and the flash stays w/ the camera for quick ground shots. (Iwan...you comin to the boogie again this year?) I am trying to work it in for sure!! I'll let you know.. I have some plans with that pond of yours Going to try walking on water again?50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSBDeath 2 #14 July 27, 2008 Here is my FF2 with flash. BSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #15 July 28, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Iwan's set up is pretty clean. Mine's death...but works great. I can remove the camera and the flash stays w/ the camera for quick ground shots. (Iwan...you comin to the boogie again this year?) I am trying to work it in for sure!! I'll let you know.. I have some plans with that pond of yours Going to try walking on water again? I figured out that if you go fast enough, it can be done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonyhathaway 0 #16 July 30, 2008 You can't get shots like these without a flash. I quite like a flash. -Tony http://www.tonyhathaway.com/fotoserv/gallery_large.php4?image=Gallery_06.jpg http://www.tonyhathaway.com/fotoserv/gallery_large.php4?image=Gallery_42.jpg http://www.tonyhathaway.com/fotoserv/gallery.php4My O.C.D. has me chasing a dream my A.D.D. won't let me catch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #17 July 30, 2008 QuoteYou can't get shots like these without a flash. I quite like a flash. -Tony I agree Tony! I don't use it for bigways or for tandems (unless they are friends or willing to pay more for the photos) but for all other stuff, I LOVE flash. It just "finishes" the shots I think. And as you pointed out with those links, in tricky lighting conditions a flash will get you the "impossible" shots Iwan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #18 July 31, 2008 QuoteQuoteYou can't get shots like these without a flash. I quite like a flash. -Tony I agree Tony! I don't use it for bigways or for tandems (unless they are friends or willing to pay more for the photos) but for all other stuff, I LOVE flash. It just "finishes" the shots I think. And as you pointed out with those links, in tricky lighting conditions a flash will get you the "impossible" shots Iwan Why? that reads like you are happy to not give your best when working unless they pay more.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #19 July 31, 2008 No flash is fine for tandems but using a flash is a lot more weight to haul along as well as the investment needed in batteries to last for a day. If you want to use the arguement about "not giving it your best" then why are all videos not shot on IMAX or all stills are not made using 1D Mark3's or at least with L glass? There is a line that gets drawn and I would agree with Iwan that the flash is not needed for the majority of students but is needed when conditions warrent. Outside of those conditions then it is optional and there is usually a premium that comes with optional services.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMFin 0 #20 July 31, 2008 I assume you jump with a DsMIII body with at least two flashes and battery packs on you just to make your best for 30 bucks ? Seriously. I cant think of any other professional photographer who gets paid less for his photographs than a tandemvidiot. Even though taking the photos requires that the vidiot jumps out of an aircraft with the gear attached to his head. Risking not just the equipment but his health also.. Do some tandem video/photos professionally for a while and Im sure you will not want any extra weight on your head unless you are paid accordingly.. EDIT: seems like phree beat me to it.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #21 July 31, 2008 QuoteNo flash is fine for tandems but using a flash is a lot more weight to haul along as well as the investment needed in batteries to last for a day. If you want to use the arguement about "not giving it your best" then why are all videos not shot on IMAX or all stills are not made using 1D Mark3's or at least with L glass? There is a line that gets drawn and I would agree with Iwan that the flash is not needed for the majority of students but is needed when conditions warrent. Outside of those conditions then it is optional and there is usually a premium that comes with optional services.you dont use that argument because most of us are not wankers. YOUR best does not imply the best that is available to the professional market. When conditions warrant is not what Iwan stated either. I'm well aware that in general jumping the condition may not warrant a flash, but Iwan's post does not imply a condtion on ambient light only on financesYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #22 July 31, 2008 Quote Quote No flash is fine for tandems but using a flash is a lot more weight to haul along as well as the investment needed in batteries to last for a day. If you want to use the arguement about "not giving it your best" then why are all videos not shot on IMAX or all stills are not made using 1D Mark3's or at least with L glass? There is a line that gets drawn and I would agree with Iwan that the flash is not needed for the majority of students but is needed when conditions warrent. Outside of those conditions then it is optional and there is usually a premium that comes with optional services. you dont use that argument because most of us are not wankers. YOUR best does not imply the best that is available to the professional market. When conditions warrant is not what Iwan stated either. I'm well aware that in general jumping the condition may not warrant a flash, but Iwan's post does not imply a condtion on ambient light only on finances I am all about the money Squeak, you know how the Dutch are When the conditions do not allow me to get a nice shot (weird lighting / back light) I will put the flash on my helmet. My customers deserve the best, and I take even tandem videos very serious. 125 bucks for photos and video is serious money and they deserve a serious product. I do however, let the customers know they are getting "special treatment" and why, and they are usually VERY happy when we get back to the ground and I show them the photos. Like Phreezone said, I can't afford (physically) to jump with all that stuff on my head 12 times a day for 40 bucks a jump. I've done it, and I will do it when needed, but not every day every weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #23 August 1, 2008 Quote [reply Like Phreezone said, I can't afford (physically) to jump with all that stuff on my head 12 times a day for 40 bucks a jump. I've done it, and I will do it when needed, but not every day every weekend. I figured (hoped) as much but it didnt read like that in the initial comment, and as usual 3rd parties tried to take it to a higher than needed level. You do, do very good work You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #24 August 7, 2008 Quote (Iwan...you comin to the boogie again this year?) Ok.. it took some twisting of my arm.. and looking at last year's boogie video again... and I just booked my ticket. I'll be arriving with the rest of the NorCal crew.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #25 August 8, 2008 QuoteQuote (Iwan...you comin to the boogie again this year?) Ok.. it took some twisting of my arm.. and looking at last year's boogie video again... and I just booked my ticket. I'll be arriving with the rest of the NorCal crew.. Heaven help us. Oh wait, I'm part of the NorCal crew.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites