spidermonky 0 #1 July 8, 2003 What would it take to fix something like this? The tear is about 1/4" long. It's on a Sabre170, mfg Jan 1996. Is this expensive? Time consuming? I'm waiting to hear back from a part time rigger on his opinion and thought I would see what the verdict is on here. Thanks all! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #2 July 8, 2003 $20.00 and 30 minutes. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #4 July 8, 2003 My rigger took care of one of those for $5. Just wait until I post the torn out rib I got a while back. I have to send THAT to Aerodyne."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #5 July 8, 2003 Yep, a patch. Never use rip-stop tape on a canopy, the adhesive is acidic and will destroy the fabris it touches over time. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #6 July 8, 2003 Honestly.... I would leave it alone and just keep an eye on it for now.... it is pretty tiny... However, if you really want it airtight, I would take some similarly colored type 3 tape and similar color thread and just sew it to the inside of the cell. Very unobtrusive, and I would only charge $5 for the work.... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #7 July 9, 2003 On my canopy I wouldn't worry about it. If someone wanted to get it patched so they wouldn't worry it would be fairly cheap and fast. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cuchulinn 0 #8 July 9, 2003 Your pencil tip is pretty much covering the entire rip, that alone merits it "not to severe" I am not a rigger, (but aspiring to be one), but you have a ZP canopy with rip-stop material, unless the snag, rip, pr tare exceedes 4 "boxes" nothing needs to be done other than monitor for increased damage SMA#18 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #9 July 9, 2003 I hadnt heard that the adhesive was corrosive to the canopy, how long does it take to cause problems? Does it matter if its zero P or F 111? RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #10 July 9, 2003 Quotehow long does it take to cause problems? Good question, the longer it is on the fabric, the worse it is. It doesn't immiedately start to fizzle and eat through, but it can leave the adhesive behind if you peel it off, require ing the entire area to be reparied. I have canopies rip apart starting at a rip stop tape repair. I have also torn fabric like tissue paper that had been repaired with rip stop tape. I didn't have any way to determine how long it had been on the fabric. Anyone have any rip stop tape and fabric that would be willing to do an experiment? QuoteDoes it matter if its zero P or F 111? No, it affets both, but an experiment could provide better answers. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pablito 0 #11 July 10, 2003 Sweet answer Derek!!! "If you don't overcome your fears they will overcome you first" Shady Monkey/6Segundos Rodriguez/AKA Pablito Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #12 July 10, 2003 My SO has a few rip stop patches on his stiletto and has had them for many years now w/o problem. I would be interested in that experiment, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #13 July 10, 2003 Anyone have any rip-stop tape they can send me? Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #14 July 10, 2003 QuoteAnyone have any rip-stop tape they can send me? Hook Ya know... Para gear has a bunch I have a canopy with lot of it on the stabilizers, it's been there for a year. Remind me to Check on it in the evening.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #15 July 10, 2003 Ripstop is an excellent way of ensuring you will have work in the future.... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakydiver 0 #16 July 10, 2003 fix what? Just duck it and f it. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sducoach 0 #17 July 10, 2003 Hey bull spreader (ooops!!!) FRM baby, FRM!!!!! Blues, J.E.James 4:8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrHixxx 0 #18 July 11, 2003 I am not a fan of ripstop tape. But if your canopy is anywhere near a reline (say within a year or two) and you have to send it to PD for that, PD will do a 2 x 2 patch for an extra 20 bucks. -Hixxxdeath,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GroundZero 0 #19 July 11, 2003 That vintage canopy is built from Performance Textiles' brand "Soar Coat". Because of the silicon treating, a tear that small is insignificant. Skydive on brother. Watch it when you pack, but otherwise ..Don't worry about that unimportant tear. Chris Precision Aerodynamics Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spidermonky 0 #20 July 11, 2003 This is the reply from a local rigger: ------------- If the tear is only 0.25" long you could buy some ripstop tape from paragear ($3.00). Black is probably the nearest color they have. It is adhesive backed. You should apply the tape slightly larger than the tear on both sides of the tear and press together on a flat surface. If you want me to patch it, I will have to use blackberry since it is the closest color I have. The patch will probably have to be about 1" x 1". Let me know what you want to do. ------------- After reading what is on here, I don't want the tape on my canopy. Is there a way to get grey patch material? Is it the same material as the rest of the canopy? Could PD supply me with a patch for the rigger to use? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #21 July 11, 2003 A yard of material doesn't cost very much, $8.00 or so, and that is way more than is needed for a small patch. Para-gear or PD would both be good sources. Hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #22 July 11, 2003 It was my experience that ripstop will not stick to zero p at all... so, for emergency stabilizer repairs and stuff on 384s and the like, either we busted out the type 3 tape and went to town, or we busted out the ripstop and sewed it to the canopy... the adhesive will still do a number on zero p fabric though... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #23 July 12, 2003 Maybe you should stop stabbing your canopy with a pencil and it won't tear? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites