kgp4death 0 #1 November 1, 2010 I feel that the community is lacking a online video instruction and training type material. Everything i see is purchuseable material and I really feel like the comunity would benifit from a free instructional video site that would help beginners gain some understanding and help them through aff as well as more experienced people with other aspects of the sport, especially when dealing with canopy control. I am a beginner compared to most on this site but feel like i can help fill a void if I had video i can edit and add instructional comentary too slow down and show step by step......I would like a few people to donate their skydiving video libary to the free (open source...for lack a better word) project (probably will have you upload video via ftp server i will setup for the project).....end state will be 40-50 videos explaining various aspects of the sport hosted on a free site for everyone to use free of charge (might stick with youtube as my video server embedding youtube objects into a seperate site.....please let me know if you would like to donate your video or help develop content, again this is a free project to make the community better and help make the sport more accessable for beginers thanks K.G.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #2 November 1, 2010 So....those of us that have invested 8-10K in building training media are being asked to donate our work (income and experience) for free? Who pays for the editing, jumps, camera work, knowledge, talent? How do we recover our investment? It's a great idea to put together a library, but if you can't provide a means of recouping investments while you build a gateway and content site on our efforts...I'm not clear on "where's the beef?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUJEFEPSLxA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FoC2Dw3o_M&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KeMIQYRDs&feature=channel are all free resources that point to purchased content. These are expensive to produce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kgp4death 0 #3 November 1, 2010 yes i understand that you feel your work is worth something.....I am looking for people that just video everything and are not going to do anything with it and don't mind other people seeing their video. This is not a money making indevor this is a selfless attempt to make the community better and make the training material freely avalible better. I like many others are not motivated by monetary benifit I care more about helping people and possibly saving someones life becuase they saw one of the videos we create......i think it is a worth while project.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #4 November 1, 2010 Quote i understand that you feel your work is worth something..... You don't? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #5 November 1, 2010 You're right that you can find free instructional videos on just about any topic in the world. There is a lot of good skydiving stuff out there though. There used to be a great site where you could find just about any skydiving video... can't remember the name of it. But anyway there's a big difference between free instructional videos for sony vegas and free instructional videos for skydiving. Bad advice in one leads to crappy editing and bad advice in the other can lead to death. We don't need everyone posting "how to" videos for the latest trick they learned. Instruction should come from qualified people. Look to the internet for entertainment. Look to your instructors, manufacturers, coaches, etc for instruction. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kgp4death 0 #6 November 1, 2010 actually very good advice pilotdave I will make sure to peer review any material before it is posted. thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zlew 0 #7 November 1, 2010 Having people go out and make such video's probably won't really take off, but I do think there is a good opportunity to use video we already have to help out. Example: the exit article that is up on this forum now. If You had video of what a "by the book" well executed 2 way, 3 way, 4 way exit looks like, it would be very beneficial. It can be difficult to visualize some of what is written, esp. if you have never seen or done it before. Something as simple as a link to a youtube clip would be very helpful, and not cost any real production time/cost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #8 November 1, 2010 I see you edited your post. To clarify, I'm saying the same thing Dave is (Dave used to host the largest repository of skydiving videos in the world, so he kinda knows his stuff), getting qualified instruction should come from qualified people. You say you'll "peer review." Whose peers? Are you ready to take on the legal responsibility if someone watches a video you've peer reviewed and you get sued for bad information?Or, who determines the context of the information given, since you're looking for unedited, unprocessed footage? Good luck with it, I'm happy to let you link to the 50 or so videos we've put up for free training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #9 November 1, 2010 I didn't realize this is a cross-post. Please keep the discussion going where it originated. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3984571#3984571 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites