askir 0 #1 August 6, 2003 I just opened a reserve and found this beauty in it, you may not notice, but besides the obvious unraveled stitching the thing is hanging only by the sleeving. LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,521 #2 August 6, 2003 Eeeeeeeewwww!!! Y'know, I can see letting stuff slide in your own gear in some ways -- but not someone else's. Ever. That's simply unacceptable. And no, I don't think I ever had anything that disgusting in my reserve. Even if one of them is a 20' round... Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #3 August 6, 2003 Lovely...can you say Bag Strip? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #4 August 6, 2003 That doesn't look very good. But I must ask the question, what does it do? I've only gone through one repack...-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #5 August 6, 2003 Very nice... I can't tell the integrity of the rubber bands themselves but since you mentioned it was only holding on by the sleeve, I'll have to guess the bands were all broken inside. That appears to be an original RI safety stow am I correct? How old is that? Masher: A safty stow is what holds the Freebag closed. It's a continuous bungie cord that slides in a channel between the grommets for the locking stows. It holds the first to bights of line on a reserve. The rest of the lines are stowed in a pouch. Hope that helps.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
askir 0 #6 August 6, 2003 all but about four strands of rubber band left. LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggermick 7 #7 August 6, 2003 As bad as it looks it appears that the core strands are still intact. Judging by the remaining intact stitch count there is about 140 lbs before failure (8 lbs x aprox 18 stitches = 144) so it's unlikely it would fail during deployment. That being said it's still not right to install it into a reserve in that condition. Hot searing the ends and back tacking the stitch pattern would prevent this from happening. Mick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petur 0 #8 August 6, 2003 "I WILL BE SURE - ALWAYS" Ask your rigger if this phrase rings a bell... --- P. "It Hurts to Admit When You Make Mistakes - But When They're Big Enough, the Pain Only Lasts a Second." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #9 August 6, 2003 I will replace a safety stow loop if: -the elastic is broken and it is being held together only by the sheath (usually near the stitching) -any of the stitching is loose or broken -the loop has stretched to the point that it is longer than standard length (one inch longer than the distance between the grommets on the free bag as it lies flat) Hope this helps Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rigging65 0 #10 August 6, 2003 QuoteThat doesn't look very good. But I must ask the question, what does it do? It's called a safety stow. It holds your freebag closed, just like your locking stow rubber bands do on your main D-bag. The difference is, it's one loop that slides through a sleeve such that one end makes the left stow and the other makes the right stow. The idea is that if one of the two stows releases, the other one basically has to as well (as the safety stow will just slide through the channel and allow the other stow to release). It's designed to to help eliminate bag lock on a freebag. Pretty much every manufacturer uses one, with the exception of Jump Shack (builds the Racer). "...and once you had tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been, and there you long to return..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #11 August 6, 2003 I can easily envision a scenario where most of the problem with that stow occurred during the pack job, after it is hidden from the rigger. Let us not be so quick to assume that it was packed in that condition. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #12 August 6, 2003 If someone is hashing out safety stows like that DURING packing... they need to get some refresher training... there is NO excuse for finding that in a rig after 120 days.... It takes 30 seconds on a zig zag machine to reinforce suspect stitching on those things.... edited to add: of course I must admit that I can not forsee all circumstances where it could get like that, but I would be pissed to find that.... __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
askir 0 #13 August 6, 2003 I thought about the scenario where it could get like that after packing, perhaps when the canopy settles, or when the cypress presses against I don't know. I have seen this riggers work before and genrally it is good work, hence the surprise. LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #14 August 7, 2003 Cheers H and R65. Now I know. -- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
