Moving Foward in a sit

[kansasskydiver 0]

I've got a question for everyone. I jump at a smaller dz that goes to 10 grand, so that limits the time we have to do stuff in the air. when jumping with newbie's or beginners to the freefly world, usually off the step they roll onto their back and tend to back slide quit a bit. i can track towards them in my sit, but there have got to be a faster way, it just doesn't seem like i'm doing something right to close the distance. i bring my feet foward and point my toes, then i lean back just a little. is there anything else anyone knows of that i could try? i have about 150 sits, so i'm still learning.
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Chris aka Flash

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[rking12 0]

Do you feel comfortable taking a gripped exit? If you do you can keep them close till you get to terminal and you won't get so much separation.

[Trent 0]

Chris,

It sounds like you might be using a sit-drive technique that was better suited to the older "sit-suit" flying. I find that I can get from A to be pretty quickly by focusing on what really propels you forward. It isn't the legs and feet so much as it is your back. Try this... go into a stand and lean way back, keeping your balance and feet down. (It'll take practice). For even more drive you can put your hands above your head and REALLY lean back. The balance takes practice, but you'll cover gaps very quickly using this technique. You also won't really sink out at all, even though you're standing, since your back is exposed to more wind and driving you forward and "up" in a sense.

Hope that helps.

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[kansasskydiver 0]

yes i'm comfortable using a docked exit, but i prefer to fly the exit so i can watch what the student is doing and give him pointers on getting into the sit. i had never thought about that technique with going into a slight stand and leaning back, that makes perfect sense. i guess i was always concerned dropping down below the other person because we stay relative, just have a long distance between us, but as you said, by exposing my back i am cupping the same ammount of air and can propel myself foward. thanks for the advice, if anyone has more, i'm listening!
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Chris aka Flash

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[skygeek 0]

Which direrction are they exiting? Facing the tail or the prop?

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[FreeflyGoat 0]

Start the motion by leaning back while keeping your feet pressed down to keep from going to the recliner. After getting a little motion push your hips forward "stick it to the air". The motion is really all in the hips. It starts slow but will pick up speed.

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[Kris 0]

I was lucky enough to do a coach jump with Ramon on this very thing. While I seem to now have a decent forward speed when I need it, what is the best way to slow down without running the other person over or having to slide around them to avoid them?

I try to lean forward a bit and bring my arms forward but I can't seem to bleed the speed off fast enough. If I get really radical with slowing down, I tend to get unstable.

Any ideas?

Kris

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[AggieDave 6]

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I try to lean forward a bit and bring my arms forward

That's what I do and I'm able to stop really quickly, even after moving very quickly to someone. I generally don't experience any unstability, but with FF everyone is different.

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[Trent 0]

Kris,

Try not to slow down all at once. Just like belly flying... you don't track at the base and slam on the breaks to take a dock. If you've got a lot of distance, blow out the forward movement. As you get closer ease down the approach gradually until you've stopped. Yes, this will take longer initially to get to the other person, but after you do it for a while you'll be able to make this one fluid movement and it will actually be faster than just hauling ass to get somewhere. If you always drive in too aggressively, you'll probably see an orbit start... since the other person is moving out of your way and turning to face you.

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[kansasskydiver 0]

thatnks again for the advice everyone. does anyoen know of a website where i can read and look at pictures for head up and head down positions etc? i know i had found one a long time ago, when i was a student and thought i'd never get into this stuff hahah
flash

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[Kris 0]

***Try not to slow down all at once. Just like belly flying... you don't track at the base and slam on the breaks to take a dock. If you've got a lot of distance, blow out the forward movement. As you get closer ease down the approach gradually until you've stopped. Yes, this will take longer initially to get to the other person, but after you do it for a while you'll be able to make this one fluid movement and it will actually be faster than just hauling ass to get somewhere. If you always drive in too aggressively, you'll probably see an orbit start... since the other person is moving out of your way and turning to face you.***

Danke, Trent. I will definitely give that a go.

Thanks again,

Kris

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[Unutsch 0]

Just as it was said before: to go forward lean back, push your hips in (I call this motion the FUCK IN position, hehe, kinky me, just like in sex, FUCK IN and FUCK OUT ), to go faster, ease your hands, to go more faster push your feet forward a bit.

To stop, I usually lean very much forward, stop some 1 or 2 meters away from the base, and then slowly move to it. Or when I'm jumping with my teammate, we usually stop at the last moment before our toes touch.

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[blazingcannon 0]

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thatnks again for the advice everyone. does anyoen know of a website where i can read and look at pictures for head up and head down positions etc? i know i had found one a long time ago, when i was a student and thought i'd never get into this stuff hahah
flash

Here's some great articles.

Head up flying. Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced.
http://www.zct.co.uk/skydivemag/pages/articles/aug00/headupflying.htm
http://www.zct.co.uk/skydivemag/pages/articles/oct00/headupflying2.htm
http://www.zct.co.uk/skydivemag/pages/articles/dec00/headup3.htm

Headdown.
http://www.zct.co.uk/skydivemag/pages/articles/apr98/headdown.htm

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