davelepka 4 #1 April 22, 2003 I saw a post where somebody refered to belly flying as the "student position". We all know of free-fly stundents working with coaches, and my DZ has a mandatory sit-fly jump (2 actually) for A-licence seekers (who are technically still students). Lets be fair, and call it what it really is, the deployment position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #2 April 22, 2003 Oh yeah, I know that position! It's what I go to when the fun is over! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #3 April 22, 2003 Oh yeah, I know that position! It's what I go to when the fun is over! ***ARCHING IS THE END!or is it an AXIS?.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheneyneel 0 #4 April 22, 2003 Guys I dont know but doing 3-D dives I think are the most aggresive, difficult, and fun dives to do.. Add a little tracking and a swoop and damn that is some skill.. Some belly flyers ask me why I freefly all the time and I answer with a question like "Can you come into a round in any of the three major body positions while flying?" and they just look at me like they have never thought of it like that and say no.. and i recieve this satisfaction of being a multidemensional flyer and being good at them all.. And that my freinds is what the belly gods cant take away from you and is what is making a minority the majority..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fundgh 0 #5 April 22, 2003 So if you are flying horizontally in Hybrid, do you really have to say that you were belly flying, or is there another term that can be used!?...FUN FOR ALL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheneyneel 0 #6 April 23, 2003 Let me note that there is a big difference in what a hybrid is and what a 3-D dive is.. Major difference!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #7 April 23, 2003 Major difference!!! ***Babylon style for example..CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #8 April 24, 2003 Quote Some belly flyers ask me why I freefly all the time and I answer with a question like "Can you come into a round in any of the three major body positions while flying My response to the dedicated freeflyer: "Have you turned 15 points (stable docks) in a 12-way?"Personally, I appreciate all flying and find the casual, dirt dive in the plane, pack and jump attitude to freeflying very cool. I like making lots of jumps in a day.Ken"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apoil 0 #9 April 24, 2003 QuoteSo if you are flying horizontally in Hybrid, do you really have to say that you were belly flying, or is there another term that can be used!? Utilizing your "abdominal control surface" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airann 1 #10 April 24, 2003 QuoteLet me note that there is a big difference in what a hybrid is and what a 3-D dive is.. Major difference!!! I think the vSCR numbers are inaccurate and misleading. (and they bug me) Not everyone is Vertical in a vSCR. vSCR numbers are given to belly, head, stand and sit. Which to me is a hybrid. By definition vRW is sit and headdown or vertical body flying, I thought. Consider this The Art of vRW says- " Freeflying or Vertical RW (vRW) - An emerging skydiving dicsipline (initially popularized by Olav Zipser, beginning approximately 1986) that focuses on the ability to control levels and proximity while flying vertical positions (initially with the head into the wind.) Today, vertical RW embraces a variety of body positions to fly relative with others at any fall-rate. Freeflyers do their vertical relative work in a variety of modes including head-down, standing, sitting, back flying, and belly flying. Pretty, graceful body form is not the most important aspect in vertical RW; rather, as in all forms of RW precise control of levels and proximity is the main objective. The intent is to be able to fly in any position relative to another skydiver within a space constrained only by time. Compared to "flat" or planar RW vRW is spherical or three-dimensional. Larger formations resemble a swarm of bees more than a dinner plate. To illustrate, RW dives can be stamped out on a flat piece of paper, while vRW dives cannot. Video presentation in from the side or a 3-D spherical point-of-view. " This book is copyrighted 1998, in 2003, maybe the definitions have changed? Likely. Thoughts anyone? ~AirAnn~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites