WrongWay 0 #1 August 27, 2003 Hey everybody, I know there's a bunch of rumors going around about Olav and the AD test. I'm going to clear some up. First, the one about now only Olav and Stephania being able to give it, FALSE. You can find a full list of instructors at www.worldfreefly.com, and no, none of anyone's priveleges have been revoked. Second, the one about now having to pay a fee each year to renew your AD license, FALSE. You get it, you keep it. This info was sent to me directly by Stephania, so it has been verified. Hope this clears up some of those nasty rumors!! Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #2 August 27, 2003 QuoteSecond, the one about now having to pay a fee each year to renew your AD license, FALSE. You get it, you keep it. This info was sent to me directly by Stephania, so it has been verified. Hope this clears up some of those nasty rumors!! "license" yep, that pretty much clears it all up. Levin vSCS#3 www.freeflyers.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vertifly 0 #3 August 27, 2003 Quote"license" Actually, it's: THE FREEFLY™ LICENSE ATMOSPHERE DOLPHIN TEST (The First human flight performance test) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #4 August 27, 2003 Wow, you guys don't seem to like him much........or is it just the fact that you owe him five bucks every time you say his word??? Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithwilfort 0 #5 August 27, 2003 good grief, here we go again....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #6 August 28, 2003 Dude, dude!! I'm kidding!!! I figured somebody would say something like that...hahaha!! I'm just playing around guys!! Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totalbodypilot 0 #7 August 28, 2003 **NOT AN ADVERTISMENT, JUST FACT***I test people at skydive city for a coach jump. Most have learned that its just a scam, and dont care about the number.....i came to that fact personaly along time ago.seek and destroy, clear and sweep, what ever you want to call it, its all fun in games in the game of war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apoil 0 #8 September 2, 2003 QuoteHey everybody, I know there's a bunch of rumors going around about Olav and the AD test. I'm going to clear some up. First, the one about now only Olav and Stephania being able to give it, FALSE. You can find a full list of instructors at www.worldfreefly.com, I'm looking and I don't see a full list of instructors. If you mean the list of "national representatives" it looks to me like that's just the list of the person with the lowest "A" from each country. The website says what you have to do to take the test, but no where does it seem to say where or with whom... The B and higher are even more difficult to obtain. Not because of the skill, but because of who can administer them. Last I heard, no one, without specific prior approval from Olav. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #9 September 2, 2003 To my understanding, it is the A and B that can be given by the instructors. I believe it is the C and D which have to be give by Olav or someone else with clearing from Olav. (Prolly Swanson, the only other qualified D holder). I'll post a full list of people qualified in the US to give it here sometime within the next day or so, but anyway, that's what I know. I'll double check with Stephaia or Olav to verify this, just in case. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyanvil 0 #10 September 2, 2003 >>Prolly Swanson, the only other qualified D holder)<< Steve Utter also has the D .Vid "stons fal, evrysing fals, but doesnt on purpos change its flite pas an positioning..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #11 September 2, 2003 Yeah but Utter is no longer allowed to give the test for reasons unknown. (I think he and Olav had differences, but not sure......) Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyanvil 0 #12 September 3, 2003 so, because him and olav had differences, he is no longer a 'qualified' D holder? or did you mean to say that he is not 'qualified' to give the test? .Vid "stons fal, evrysing fals, but doesnt on purpos change its flite pas an positioning..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #13 September 3, 2003 Take this nothing more as rumor. I can't remember whom or whom all I heard this from so I can't back up what I say. But I am under the impression that Steve Utter gave up his AD test giving privilages on his own accord. Not so much because he had a fallin out with Olav. Maybe just tired of doing ball jumps. I know ballmastering got old for me pretty quick. Think about it, alls you are doing (hopefully) is falling the tube videoing and waiting to retrive the ball. Pretty cool at first but probably gets old after a 100 times. That and considering your legally responsible for the thing as well as the pilot who has absolutely no control over the situation once the ball leaves the aircraft. For the freefly student the ball (in the right enviroment) can be one of the best training aids ever in freeflying. But for the ballmaster, the risks (to me) outweigh the rewards. Therefore I do not do ball jumps unless the student freeflyer is paying for it as coach jump. I always require a pre-ball jump to make sure they are qualified. And even then sometimes I may still decline to jump the ball simply because I don't want to. When in the door if the conditions do not look right I run the ball up to the cockpit and give it to the pilot. It makes the pilots more comfortable knowing you will make the resposible decisions when theirs pilot's licenses among other things are on the line. Levin vSCR#17 www.freeflyers.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Levin 0 #14 September 3, 2003 Quotedid you mean to say that he is not 'qualified' to give the test? I doubt he meant that. I'd say he's more than quallified. Levin vSCR#17 www.freeflyers.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #15 September 3, 2003 Quoteso, because him and olav had differences, he is no longer a 'qualified' D holder? or did you mean to say that he is not 'qualified' to give the test? . Sorry I said that wrong. What I meant was just what Levin said, he no longer has priveleges to give the test. Of course he still has his AD-D, but is no longer a FSMS instructor. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apoil 0 #16 September 10, 2003 QuoteTo my understanding, it is the A and B that can be given by the instructors. I believe it is the C and D which have to be give by Olav or someone else with clearing from Olav. and who are "the instructors" ? Swanson needed clearance from Olav to do a B last year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #17 September 11, 2003 >>Prolly Swanson, the only other qualified D holder)<< Steve Utter also has the D . Vid "stons fal, evrysing fals, but doesnt on purpos..."*** If i am right so does Rook Nelson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apoil 0 #18 September 11, 2003 Quote If i am right so does Rook Nelson Not according to the web site. Rook could certainly do it, but he's I don't expect that he will. He doesn't have to prove that he's at that skill level, doesn't have to jump through Olav's hoops. He's got a handful of gold medals, and pretty much universal recognition as one of the best body fliers alive today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #19 September 14, 2003 QuoteQuote If i am right so does Rook Nelson Not according to the web site. Rook could certainly do it, but he's I don't expect that he will. He doesn't have to prove that he's at that skill level, doesn't have to jump through Olav's hoops. He's got a handful of gold medals, and pretty much universal recognition as one of the best body fliers alive today. Current World Champion as of yesterday. But why should that count for anything?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocares 0 #20 September 17, 2003 Current World Champion as of yesterday. But why should that count for anything? ------------------ *** World champ 4 years in a row..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sssbc99 0 #21 September 18, 2003 QuoteQuote"license" Actually, it's: THE FREEFLY™ LICENSE ATMOSPHERE DOLPHIN TEST (The First human flight performance test) Since they wouldnt let me post this on the other thread, check this out. Just an interesting piece of info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites