GRU 0 #1 August 5, 2005 I have a small grammar problem... Can you help me which spelling is correct? Should I write freeflier or freeflyer? thank you for answerfly free GRU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #2 August 5, 2005 i've seen it done and accepted with both spellings but, i more often see the spelling with the y."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #3 August 5, 2005 Write to Olav and ask him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRU 0 #4 August 5, 2005 Olav is good in freefling but not in grammarfly free GRU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #5 August 5, 2005 I tried Dictionary.com for you, and it wasn't much help because it found no entries. It did offer some other suggestions such as: Free liver Free lover Fireflies Freesoiler Frivoler Frizzlier Ruffler I like being a freeflyer much more than a freesoiler. That just sounds nasty, like something scared tandem passengers do. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #6 August 5, 2005 freeflyer. freeflying not freeflier or freefling. just the way I spell it thoughMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HydroGuy 0 #7 August 5, 2005 QuoteI have a small grammar problem... Can you help me which spelling is correct? Should I write freeflier or freeflyer? thank you for answer No one on this board knows how to spell...for that matter, no one on this board knows proper grammar. Aggiedave told me this once...I thought he was kidding. He wasn'tGet in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ifics 0 #8 August 5, 2005 Well, one option DZ.com spell check gives us for freeflyer or freeflier is "frivolous". I guess the answer to its spelling has been right in front of all of us Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #9 August 6, 2005 a quick survey of google indicates that Flyer - tends to refer to the 'craft' or the 'pilot' most often while Flier - seems to refer to 'passengers on a craft', a 'remote operator' or a 'pamplet' most often Flyer is more estheticlly pleasing imo____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #10 August 6, 2005 After reading this thread, I was looking through my new Para Gear catalog and found this about the video "The Best of Olaving": QuoteThe man who copyrighted the word Freeflying All of the t-shirts also spelled it Freeflyer. Probably not conclusive, just a little more evidence. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deaffreeflyer 0 #11 August 6, 2005 Why don't you do a poll and see which have most votes? You'll get your answer but I like 'freeflyer' better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #12 August 8, 2005 I attended a seminar at the BPA AGM a couple of years ago. They asked Olav about freeflying and he said: "'Freeflying' (tm) is a registered traidmark and every time you use the term 'Freeflying' (tm) you owe me $5." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #13 August 9, 2005 QuoteThey asked Olav about freeflying and he said: "'Freeflying' (tm) is a registered traidmark and every time you use the term 'Freeflying' (tm) you owe me $5." That's why, when speaking, I always say "freeflieing" and never "freeflying (tm)". "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #14 August 9, 2005 I always thought it was Phreaflyink. Maybe not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jose 0 #15 August 31, 2005 QuoteI attended a seminar at the BPA AGM a couple of years ago. They asked Olav about freeflying and he said: "'Freeflying' (tm) is a registered traidmark and every time you use the term 'Freeflying' (tm) you owe me $5." Olav can kiss my 'Freeflying' ass...... (tm) that...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMGR2 0 #16 August 31, 2005 QuoteOlav can kiss my 'Freeflying' ass...... Agreed the (tm) thing is kinda silly but apparently you have never skydived with him or you might have a little more admiration for his skills. No matter what anyone says about the (tm) the guy is still badass. BTW, I (tm) freeflailing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pendragon 1 #17 August 22, 2006 Free-flying, free flight etc have been used to collectively describe hang and paragliding for some years... Next thing, someone will be saying that ground launching is a new idea. -- BASE #1182 Muff #3573 PFI #52; UK WSI #13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #18 August 22, 2006 The thing is that Freeflight is on the downside. Now its Vertical Relative Work, which to a degree kils the idea of getting on the plane and figuring out what the hell we are going to do. Soon we will have (or maybe already have) VRW 4-way teams...training rooms at Deland etc. We are basically getting institutionalizedjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunnerl 0 #19 August 25, 2006 well wouldn't go that far.. VRW is a cool discipline - hopefully will be developed further - for some it will help the people who "dont know what to do" . but - diving into clouds, moving free through the sky, (freefly is not headdown), ... will NOT go down for the people who can be creative in the skies! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
volo 0 #20 August 26, 2006 VRW (now known officially as VFS or Vertical Formation Skydiving) is an up and coming discipline that is pushing the envelope of Freeflying and the people who participate in it. I agree that VFS is moving toward being more formal, but in order for it to be a legitamite discipline for USPA and IPC, we have to start w/ some type of structure for judges and competitors to work off of. All disciplines (pretty much) have had to start somewhere in developing a structure to their discipline such as Formation Skydiving, Freestyle, CRW, etc. All in all, if people tend to shy away from VFS because of their theories that it's not 'true' freeflying, then so be it. You cannot educate people on VFS flying if they are not willing to open their minds to it. My own personal feelings about it, if people look down upon VFS and want to take it away from the Freefly genre, then it's okay w/ me. Though it makes no sense to have a narrow mind regarding this, because all those who participate in VFS are some of the best "Freeflyers" in the world. I myself love VFS and I know it's here to stay. Usually when people criticize a specific discipline in this sport, it's typically because that person(s) cannot do it. There's no need to try and downtalk another's discipline and how it applies to a genre if you haven't gotten your feet wet in it and actually have participated in it. I guess my point is...keep an open mind about 'big picture' and just have some fun, because that's what most of us are here to do anyway :)Jason Jerusalem life@jasonjerusalem.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunnerl 0 #21 August 28, 2006 thats a good post, man. you are absolutely right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #22 August 29, 2006 One point in your post is absolutely right - I am not good enough to be good at VRW/VFS or whatever we call it. Lots of training before me - I have only recently come over to the dark side. I know however from my lengthy RW experience that I never enjoyed the' team' thing. It is too formalized. It includes competition and judges and teams and all that comes with it. I have enough of that when I go running and that is where I enjoy it. I am not downtalking team work. I am just looking for something else in Freeflying.jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
volo 0 #23 August 29, 2006 Good stuff...that's the great thing about this sport is that everyone searches for their own personal freedom. Whether it's about training, playing, or working...there's something for all of us Jason Jerusalem life@jasonjerusalem.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites