bringing hands forward for docks (Sit)

[wstcoaster07 0]

Ok so i have a little over 100 jumps all practicing my sitlfy just forward back, up and down motion controll and feel i generaly have good cotnroll over my sit and would like to start getting into docks. I plan on doing some tunnel time over christmas when i am home from school but until then i want to get some practice in my own.

The problem i have is that i feel any time i reach forward with one arm i start to loose stability. I can kinda reach upward with one as if to toe dock from beneth someone (by compensating through placing my oposite hand farther back) however i still dont believe i am stable enough, i have to think to hard to pull it off. So thats one problem. Problem 2 is i cant even reach out forward with one arm a bit without losing controll. Id like to learn this as well so i can dock hand to hand with somoen sitting dirrectly infront of myself.

I have seen video of guys even reaching with 2 hands (russian freeflyer video) and yet i was always left to believe without the hands back you cant keep a sit.

all tips as far as stability in a sit and docks would be greatly appreiciated.

p.s. if anyone jumps at delmarva and will coach in return of me buying your jump ticket and pack job let me know.

[AggieDave 6]

Try working with this drill. It requires a pull-up chord (packing ribbon).

Go do a solo, take a pull-up chord with you. Get 90 from jump run then pass the pull-up chord between your hands infront of you. Once you can do that with out corking, you'll be able to take just about any dock you want.

BTW, it took me a good number of jumps to get where I could do that drill without corking.

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[wstcoaster07 0]

how do you actualy reach forward with both hands and not lose your stability in a sit?

[mattjw916 2]

fly with your legs, not your arms... hands are for docking.

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[diablopilot 2]

Firstly, you'll need to find lift other than your arms. Push your shoulders back, lean your head back, both while not driving foward with your hips. Second, to start moving the arm infront of you, try to bring the elbow in to your side. As you push it furthur out infront of you , move the elbow to be more inline with the center of your chest. Rather than push the other arm straight back, bend the elbow slightly, and cup more air. Also you can slightly push back and turn out (so the inside of the calf catches more air) with the leg on the opposite side of your body as the arm your reaching with. Finaly, make sure your flying your body to the dock, if you're justr eaching for it, you'll never get there.

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[FFlyer 0]

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I have seen video of guys even reaching with 2 hands (russian freeflyer video) and yet i was always left to believe without the hands back you cant keep a sit.

I havent seen you fly before but by the sounds of it you might be flying with your arms too far back. You need to try and bring your arms out to your side and bend your arms slightly at the elbows if it helps. You should at all times be able to see both your hands in your peripheral vision without needing to turn your head.

By having your arms too far back you might be balancing on them too much which will make it more difficult to remove one hand to dock. By flying with your arms next to you with your legs nice and wide, you can use your legs to fly (which is what sitflying is all about) and your arms are no longer needed for balance so you can use them for other stuff ie: docking.

Just my 2c. Use it, dont use it

[wstcoaster07 0]

yea, ive realized i rely on my arms too much to create my stability, didnt realize how you could stay stable in a sit without them, it seems that if you dont have your arms back wont you essentialy have a drag infront of you (legs) and not behind you which would make you flip out of your sit (or is siply arching your back with shoulders back enough to counter it)?

I think i finaly understand when i was in the tunnel at perris why jaoa (spelling?) was having me do things like raise an arm completely over my head while sitting and reach out with an arm (elbow to my side first)

i think i deffinitely need some more tunnel time though when i get home, just not sure what i can afford and how much i need to make it worth my while)

[hookitt 1]

Diablopilot is a tunnel coach. Read his post again and visualize it and ground train the position. It will make it a lot easier when trying it for real

Good luck

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[wstcoaster07 0]

When you say bend the elbow slightly do you mean the elbow that is back (the non docking one) and just cup air (as if i had both elbows back cupping air with them to slow my fall rate? also when brining the elbow down to my hip do i just bring it striahg to my hip or is there a certain movement.

i just have a hard time with the concept of what will keep me upright if i push one hand forward without brining another back. thanks for all the help by the way everyone. cant wait to try this stuff out. and deffinitely will do soem wall drills