FeFe 0 #1 July 16, 2003 Hi all there is piece in Sikorsky's 'Advanced Canopy Control' which I, being a complete CReW wuffo, fail to understand. When he talks about the risks of landing a canopy with two people suspended under it after a wrap (and recommends the lower person to cut away), he remarks that Quote BUT --if you are in a Bi-Plane at 1500 feet, can't see your pilot-chutes, --plan on landing it --the pilot chutes 'may' be entangled --ain't worth the risk. I don't quite get how a wrap can result in a Bi-Plane. Sorry, stupid me... . Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #2 July 16, 2003 He’s not saying that a wrap could result in a bi-plane. He’s saying that if you’re in a bi-plane and you pc gets wrapped in the other jumper’s lines then plan on landing it. If you break then you’ll likely wrap or entangle and won’t have enough time to figure out what’s wrong. http://www.dqnt.com/acc.htm Jon, gets on these forums so I'm sure he could he could give a more complete explaination."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sikorsky 0 #3 July 16, 2003 bi-plane: build a stack, top person climbs symetrically down the center a-lines and places feet inside risers pointing toes outward 45-degrees. spreading locked-legs outward for the grip to be felt at the tops of the feet. Stand straight --thumb and 1st three fingers in toggles, 4th finger around center lines, hands-up (keep up the speed), head forward, ready to 'catch' a falling bottom-skin above you at the line attachment points with locked-elbows. IF you can't see your pilot chute at 1500 feet or below, land it. It could be entangled with the other jumpers pilot chute or pilot chute bridal, or in the case of a retractable bridal that did'nt quite retract all the way... This 'rule' I beleive originated from Indiantown, Florida late 70's from Jim Lacey and friends (Paul Bliss being one who has stayed current as of today --a great canopy-flyer) and the rule stuck. It came as a result of someone getting hurt that should'nt have --you can land the bi-plane with a decent enough flair, etc to survive in liew of being strangled in anentanglement or wrap until impact. I prefer stacks over planes due to the increased danger, but side-by-sides, downplanes and parabatics can require otherwise and are too much fun to avoid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #5 July 21, 2003 But always good to remember when you have a pilot chute reefing system. Then if you don't see it, that's just fine. hee hee ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites