C00KIE 0 #1 November 19, 2004 Dear CRW Dawgs!! There's an interesting thread kicking off in the Swooping and Canopy Control forum that I wish to draw your attention to. The thread is titled "Help Choosing my Second Canopy" by Vibeke and latest post is as follows: "Hi all - again thank you for the additional advises given. I appreciate all the input I get. I also liked many of the suggestions given by you JohanW, but there is one thing I find a pretty weird suggestion. Getting to know my canopy; why would that involve doing CReW?! I like flying my canopy relatively close to other (skilled canopy pilots) but doing CReW is in my opinion not a common aspect of "getting to know your canopy". Its a discipline, and a rather extreme one. I would definitely not want anyone kicking their feet in my lines and fabric. Its not build for CReW and CReW has little to do with my canopy control skills, that focuses mainly on "playing around" up high and practicing my high speed approach landings or accuracy landings. But you said it like it was a very common thing - and a natural part of learning how to be a better canopy pilot. I was under the impression its a high risc, am I wrong? I certainly dont want a wrap! Do you (and other here on dz.com) recommend this often, to ppl with 300 jumps? I don't mean to sound skeptic, Im just really surprised." OK CF Guys & Girls, now its your turn to give some input! For sometime I have been trying to formulate a credible argument for the benefits of CF to the Swooping community. To me it is obvious. But perhaps I lack the right words. I appreciate the wealth of experience out there amongst you CRW Dawgs and think we can really get something going. Please join this thread. I'm keen on this subject so if we get some good ideas flowing I would like to put your words in to an article for various skydiving magazines. I hope this might tickle your fancy. I really believe we've got something to add here. Cookie xLife is a four letter word! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TVPB 0 #2 November 21, 2004 Hi Cookie IMHO - everything helps everything. Being a proficient Rock Climber (RC)or Successful investor (SI) etc CAN help with your skydiving / parachuting (SP). I am talking transferable skills here. Some of the things the above 3 have in common: - preparation / planning - risk management - auditing / condition monitoring - equipment / technology knowledge - systems knowledge - rules & regulations - etc. Lets pick risk management. Having the ability to determine what all the potential problems are in any aspect of life will minmise the likelihood of failure. Hence, you will climb the appropriate route, choose profitable shares, not get injured whilst performing various landing techniques!!! The person who wrote the post you quoted is showing how ignorant and closed minded they are. Why is CRW helpful for swooping? - for starters - you learn to fly a canopy = AIRTIME - airtime is good time & it's educational. - you are more likely to use / learn all toggle and riser inputs whilst learning CRW. These are very useful for swooping. - both disciplines involve flying relative to something else. The differences are: in swoop you are flying relative to a still object that is extremely unforgiving if you hit it. In CRW, you are flying relative to moving objects that tend to be marginally safer. - CRW increases you awareness of canopy traffic - traffic awareness is an excellent & extremely important survivial skill in any skydiving discipline - especially if you are fighting for some space on the laneway in the pond!!!!!!! - you can indulge in team swooping. This involves flying relative to other canopies. i.e. canopy relative work (play :) ) i.e. CRW!!!!! - it's all air time. THIS IS GOOD. Don't fight it. Don't be scared. It's O'K. The parachute is your friend!!!!!! ;) CRW is only "extreme" for ignorant people. You need to take more care than for standard skydiving but the risks can be managed to a level equal to standard slydiving. i.e. learn CRW off people who are experienced and don't be a dickhead when you do it!!!! I started doing CRW at 80 jumps. I wish I started earlier. If everyone learned CRW early in their jump careers, there would be less canopy related accidents in the sport. CRW has little to do with your canopy control skills??? Of course it has little to do with YOUR canopy skills. Because you choose not to do it. This post has got to be a baiting attempt!!!! ;) p.s. lets take transferable a little further. How many successful individuals / businesses took an idea / product / technique / technology / etc that is used in one application, and used it successfully in another??? MANY. Without this open mindedness, an individual LIMITS him (her) self. Stay Safe - Have Fun - Good Luck The above could be crap, thought provoking, useful, or . . But not personal. You decide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
