jojo69 0 #1 January 3, 2008 I own a M3 with a Spectra 190. I have never done CRW but it is something I think I would like to investigate. Are there specific canopies for CRW? What would be the best type (7 cell vs 9 cell)? Is there a specific wing load that is optimal? Are there schools that specialize in CRW. I have taken a canopy course with Scott Miller. We did not however discuss CRW. We did discuss swooping which is something I have no interest in. I did a search but most of the stuff was over a year old. Thanks in advance for any advice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #2 January 3, 2008 You want a 7cell for crw. The lightning is the canopy of choice, some other canopies are jumped too. You can do casual crw with your spectre too but a real crw setup is safer. The wingload depends on what the others are flying, currently 1.3-1.4 seems to be used a lot but if you're not ready for the "common" wingload then the other(s) will probably adjust to you. Searching posts from a year old is fine, the info stays fairly current. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #3 January 3, 2008 This is an excellent resource for new & experienced alike. http://crwdog.servebeer.com/CRWdog/Welcome.html Someone else can do the clicky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jojo69 0 #4 January 4, 2008 Thank you both for answering my basic questions. As my jump numbers show I am still in the begining of my learning curve and want to be safe much more than cool. Again thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaulR 0 #5 January 5, 2008 Jojo, I would second what both Saskia and Chuck tell you in the messages above. They are steering you in the right direction. I would add that, at the begining, it is best to work with experienced CRW jumpers on a one-on-one basis. QuoteAre there schools that specialize in CRW? There are several jumpers around the country that can train you the right way. In Georgia, I don't know of anyone near Augusta. However, if you jump in the Atlanta area, look up Mark Gregory, Chris Gay, or Chris Warnock. Further south, Mike Lewis or myself can put together a training program for you in Zephyrhills or Lake Wales, FL. Let me know if interested. Raul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jojo69 0 #6 January 6, 2008 I am hoping to be in Florida for a little while soon. I often have to travel between GA and FL for work. I need to come to Z hills to see Mike Michigan for a refit of a jump suit. I will try to contact you with a date. Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #7 January 6, 2008 Cool avatar, finally a formation that fits in a landscape photo ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaulR 0 #8 January 6, 2008 Thank you Saskia! That was an interesting and memorable jump. As far as I know I think that's the only time that formation has ever been built. We built it with PD XC-107's during an 8-way speed practice in Lake Wales in 2004. It wasn't easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohanW 0 #9 January 8, 2008 What canopy is an XC? Never heard of that, PD Don't know it, Google doesn't ..Johan. I am. I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #10 January 8, 2008 QuoteWhat canopy is an XC? Never heard of that, PD Don't know it, Google doesn't .. Good question. Maybe Raul made a typo? I dunno, but I do know that PD has overhauled or redesigned the Lightning, and there are jumpers out there racking up test jumps on the new version. I just don't think it was out in 2004."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Madison 0 #11 January 8, 2008 I'm pretty sure XC stands for "experimental canopy". AprilExperience is what you get when you don't get what you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #12 January 8, 2008 QuoteI'm pretty sure XC stands for "experimental canopy". April You're probably right. But in 2004? I guess I thought this particular canopy didn't get air time until a couple years later."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaulR 0 #13 January 8, 2008 QuoteWhat canopy is an XC? Never heard of that, PD Don't know it, Google doesn't .. April is correct. The "XC" is PD's designation for eXperimental Canopy. PD usually takes quite a bit of time testing new canopies before bringing them to market. These are the next generation of CRW canopies from PD. Sometimes they refer to them as "Lightning II" or "The Storm" which, at the moment, are the tentative marketing names for the canopies. We jumped them at the 2004 World Championships in Croatia. The same thing happened back in the 1980's when we were jumping the experimental version of the Ligntnings long before they had a name. As in 2004, back in 1990 we also had a chance to compete at the World Championships in Thailand with the canopies before they had a name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #14 January 8, 2008 That clears it all up. Thanks! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
starkmtn 0 #15 January 26, 2008 "The data on the MiG are inaccurate." The XC is not "the next generation of CRW canopies" so much as an all-around canopy that happens to also do CF quite well. It is not being marketed as a CRW canopy as that is not what it was primarily designed to do. I know that PD are NOT planning to call it "Lightning II" for just this reason."You guys should just do CRW. There are so many more ways to get killed, it makes a CYPRES seem safe." -Kevin Keenan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
relyon 0 #16 January 27, 2008 Quote ... I know that PD are NOT planning to call it "Lightning II" for just this reason. Of course, PD will call it what ever they choose, but somehow I didn't take Chris' calling out "The next Storm jump is in ten minutes" on the armory PA real well. I'm not sure why ... Any PD folks lurking? Rusty ... Kolla ... PM me. Perhaps I'll remember why ... Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #17 January 27, 2008 Quote I didn't take Chris' calling out "The next Storm jump is in ten minutes" on the armory PA real well. I'm not sure why ... Bob At least it's "Truth in Advertising". That way those who want to jump in a storm won't miss it..._____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites