CF canopy at terminal

[Renegate 0]

Is there a downside of using a ZP CF canopy (Dacron, tailpocket, etc) for terminal RW jumps, changing the slider of course?

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[chuckbrown 0]

Dacron & the tail pocket aren't what will slam you. It's the big open nose of a CRW canopy that will inflate much faster than a FF canopy. I've seen Lightnings taken to terminal without problems, but they were packed for a very slow opening (bury the nose). I've also packed a FF ZP canopy with a mesh slider like a reserve (exposing the nose) and deploying at sub-terminal. I won't do that again.

[BUBLHED 0]

What about the Storm? Seems if you get the full CF version and change the slider it would be the perfect split for both FF and CF?

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[edge01 1]

The Red Devils Freefall Lightnings.They load them light tough.

[benagood 0]

the downside is that it will open hard if you dont pack it right,

try:
-dbag
-sail slider (or velcro fabric onto your mesh)
-rubber band slider to center c-line (ask your base friends)
-roll nose a lot
-roll other parts too
-roll pack??

if base jumpers can go terminal with a freepack then there must be a way to make a lightning do it ok too.

[kleggo 145]

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the downside is that it will open hard if you dont pack it right,


if base jumpers can go terminal with a freepack then there must be a way to make a lightning do it ok too.

uhhhhhhhhhh the vast majority of "base jumpers" do NOT use canopies that are silicone calendared such that they are considered "fully ZP"

many modern BASE canopies ARE partial "ZP".

this should be considered when comparing canopy opening characterstics.

be safe

kleggo

[Croc 0]

Are you talking Lightning? They are not called Lightning for no reason. I put about 100 terminal jumps on my Lightning (rolled the snot out of the nose) and it still opened so hard that jumpers would run out of the hanger when they heard me open.
I do not recommend taking a Lightning to terminal unless you are very good at sitting up on deployment.

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[Renegate 0]

Was thinking a CF Storm actually

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[spindlee 0]

terminal deployments are NOT RECOMMENDED on all zero P Lightings
From the PD website

Storms are a good canopy if you only really want/ afford 1 canopy which you may consider using for CReW. Also a good canopy for wingsuiting.

If in doubt, whip it out...

[eguillen 0]

I've been jumping Lightnings 160 to terminal since 1994. My current one has several hundred terminal openings. It has world record lines and trim and I load it at about 1.25:1 for freefall.

Things I found help to keep openings reasonable:

Flat pack instead of propack
Pack neat
I don't roll the nose or anything else _at all_
D-bag
Regular slider
Make sure the slider is _all_ the way up and _stays that way_ until the canopy is in the bag
Stows and rubber bands as recommended by PD

Openings are brisk, but rarely hard. You can pack any canopy to open hard, by the way. Some easier than others. Other thing I like: openings are consistently on heading

Over time I became used the canopy opening this way (you release the pilot chute, it opens fast, on heading). No 1000 ft. wondering if its going to open now... not. Maybe now? Not yet. Well... what about NOW? So, when I jump a regular freefall canopy it feels strange.

[skydiverek 63]

What lines? Spectra or Dacron? What material is the canopy?