strife 0 #1 September 18, 2014 Im looking at doing a bit a crw and want to put a rig together for probably a new lightning. Ive been trawling and and a bit of reading. Im reading about 20% bigger or a couple of sizes so a container for 190-220 would be the go? Any other tips to source other items for the rig? Thanks in advance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #2 September 18, 2014 I used to have a old student rig for my 160. I'm not sure what size rig it was but it had a 218 reserve, so my guess is that it was a 240 main rig. It was a loose fit, not dangerously loose. It was easy to pack in any weather loose. And it had a large reserve It might be cheaper to buy a old student rig than a 210 rig (I believe that will be a good fit) because 210 rigs are some peoples first rig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #3 September 18, 2014 Probably one built for a 190 will work fine. Good thing is you can usually find cheap since it doesn't have to be "freely friendly!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strife 0 #4 September 19, 2014 Thanks located a RI Genera that might fit the bill. Who is the best person to speak to re risers and toggles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecondRound 1 #5 April 22, 2016 Any suggestions about fitting a 176 Lightning? It looks to me like CRW fit is a lot different than free-fly fit. I am a rigger and I plan to pack in a tail-pocket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texascrw 1 #6 April 22, 2016 I jump a 193 Lightning in a Dolphin D5, and although I haven't tried it, it would probably fit a D4. It fits fine whether using a bag or the tail pocket. A 176 should easily fit a D4 and probably even a D3. Second hand Dolphins are usually cheap and very good rigs. I think there are several for sale in the classifieds. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytribe 17 #7 April 22, 2016 I've had a 160 lightning in a J1 but a J2/J3 would probably be better fit. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #8 April 22, 2016 SecondRoundAny suggestions about fitting a 176 Lightning? It looks to me like CRW fit is a lot different than free-fly fit. I am a rigger and I plan to pack in a tail-pocket. I would recommend something that comfortably fits a microline 190. Even then a Lightning 176 might be snug depending on the fit of the container. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sammielu 3 #9 April 22, 2016 Since when are crw dogs so picky? Any airworthy container that matches your budget, body, and reserve size preference will do. Obviously bigger is better for packing, but I'm a sloppy lightning packer (as long as I don't give myself line twists or damage the top skin with the bridle retraction rings, I'm happy). A 126 fits into the tray built for a 150 quite nice, I don't have to change closing loops for that one, and a 176 fits into a container built for a 126. Not easy to pack, but functional without fabric hanging out all over. An old Vector built for 170-210 should be easy to find since even novice jumpers want safety features like AAD, RSL, and riser protection. Maybe an ISO add would help you out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnmatrix 21 #10 April 23, 2016 I use my Vector 3 353 for a 160 Lightning and it's perfect. I do keep a very slightly longer closing loop as it's a little tighter than my Sabre 2 190. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #11 April 30, 2016 I put a 160 with tail pocket in an old Talon that was sized for a 170 main that packed easy, and 190 tight with lengthened closing loop. Often, an old Vector 2 container with velcro can be found real cheap.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecondRound 1 #12 May 4, 2016 Thanks for the input. I am posting an ISO in the classifieds. I am pretty average sized so that may work against me. I want something that will take my 176 and with a reserve that won't make me work to land or repack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecondRound 1 #13 May 9, 2016 So far, Crickets 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecondRound 1 #14 May 11, 2016 Found a rig. Now to hunt the special bits once I get it in hand so I can be sure of what I need. It is a Talon T2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecondRound 1 #15 May 12, 2016 Erred on container specifics. It's a Talon2 sized for a 210 main with a 210 reserve. I will be getting both widths of riser with large ring 3 rings and comes with wide leg straps. All the input has helped and any additional information will be taken seriously and appreciated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #16 May 16, 2016 Just to cover some more bases since this is a good "choosing gear" thread. For leg straps you can get seatbelt covers to make them a bit more comfy. The more outrageous the better. Also, you'll want a rig with few snag hazards. Run a line across all parts to make sure nothing catches. Exposed pop tops are a bad choice unless you can cinch them down tight and pass the string test. For rig size, there's no reason not to go a little bigger on the reserve and main tray as long as the rig still fits."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecondRound 1 #17 July 12, 2016 No Pop-top to deal with. The Talon looks preety snag proof. Trying to decide whether or not to start modifying the rig and canopy. ie Add tail pocket and mesh slider or get familiar with the set-up with regular slider and D-Bag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #18 July 12, 2016 You don't really need a tail pocket unless you are competing. I used one for both competition and recreational CRW for a long time. Last season I finally switched to a deployment bag for recreational CRW and I don't miss the tail pocket one bit. The openings are quite a bit smoother (not necessarily soft), especially when you get a pilot who insists on flying a fast jumprun. The mesh slider, however, is basically required. A sail slider will cost a surprising amount of performance relative to the formation, and the noise of it flapping can make it tough to hear commands. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #19 July 12, 2016 Don't forget the little sewn fold on the leading edge of the slider. I think that's still an aftermarket thing but sewing a fold on the leading edge keeps the front table from buzzing."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecondRound 1 #20 July 15, 2016 So, if I get what you're saying, I need to add a mesh slider, and modify or replace my d-bag so I have a #8 grommet to kill a non- collapsible pilot chute and possibly add CRW toggles? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #21 July 15, 2016 I realize you're responding to a couple of people but on a retractable PC that kill cone helps destroy a lot of parasitic drag. On smaller Lightnings it's enough drag to actually pull the rings back together, something you don't want during a landing in turbulence. CRW toggles are very very very helpful."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #22 September 19, 2016 DJL CRW toggles are very very very helpful. As are front risers blocks. And maybe add rear riser blocks (vet tape...) or even B-line toggles as well ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites