ernokaikkonen 0 #26 September 18, 2002 Info on the "rocket car legend". And an article, allegedly by the guy who started the legend. > Kinda like a cross between a birdman and a rocketman. Jari Kuosma has actually been toying with the idea of equipping a birdman with RC-model jet-engines... Or at least that what I heard. Erno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #27 September 19, 2002 QuoteThe trick here is that there must not be any gaps (or 'holes') in the formation - just body next to body creating a continues surface. Imagine whatching a successful attempt - 200 people descending slowly as a human canopy and landing unharmed! Possible, I imagine - but the formation would be extremely unstable... Imagine a piece of plywood falling through the sky. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quatorze 1 #28 September 19, 2002 QuoteQuoteYou know that in theory , it is possible to build a belly flying formation so large that it will move so slow that no one has to pull. I will start the sign up right here. 1) 2) 3) BTW I can get you the Brooklyn Bridge fro cheap Yes, NASA scientists calculated, that if 200 people linked in freefall, they could land without opening their parachutes. All without using wingsuits; just normal RW jumpsuit. The trick here is that there must not be any gaps (or 'holes') in the formation - just body next to body creating a continues surface. Imagine whatching a successful attempt - 200 people descending slowly as a human canopy and landing unharmed! And that is all theory, b/c I can promise you it would fail. I would more than likely not be the only person to turn and track at 7 grand I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #29 September 19, 2002 QuoteYes, NASA scientists calculated, that if 200 people linked in freefall, they could land without opening their parachutes. All without using wingsuits; just normal RW jumpsuit. The trick here is that there must not be any gaps (or 'holes') in the formation - just body next to body creating a continues surface. Imagine whatching a successful attempt - 200 people descending slowly as a human canopy and landing unharmed! QuoteAnd that is all theory, b/c I can promise you it would fail. I would more than likely not be the only person to turn and track at 7 grand That's why parachutes would not be provided... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #30 September 19, 2002 QuoteQuoteThe trick here is that there must not be any gaps (or 'holes') in the formation - just body next to body creating a continues surface. Imagine whatching a successful attempt - 200 people descending slowly as a human canopy and landing unharmed! Possible, I imagine - but the formation would be extremely unstable... Imagine a piece of plywood falling through the sky. _Am Maybe they could for a formation that would look like a bowl put upside down on a table? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fudd 0 #31 September 19, 2002 Quote[#003366]Yes, NASA scientists calculated, that if 200 people linked in freefall, they could land without opening their parachutes. All without using wingsuits; just normal RW jumpsuit. [/#003366]hmm...sounds cool, but count me out!I'll try to remeber that if I find myself in freefall after a comersial airliner accident with only skydivers aboard.--- Hey, we forgot our parachutes. Let's build a BIG formation... --- There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi69 0 #32 October 1, 2002 because bones heal, chicks dig scares, and Glory is forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GroundZero 0 #33 October 8, 2002 been done already.... See Burt Lancaster in Gypsy Moths... But we simply want to improve on the results. ----------------------------------------------------------------- now.... "Re: [kevin922] landing a birdman suit.. it IS doable..? [In reply to] Quote | Reply -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You know that in theory , it is possible to build a belly flying formation so large that it will move so slow that no one has to pull. I will start the sign up right here. 1) Chris 2) 3) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Who's next? I'll Sign up... it's only a matter of time... (notice I didn't get time specific there), but it will happen soon enough, we will all witness a successful landing. Chris Hey, just to note, I signed up for landing a Bird-Man suit, not smoking it in with a big-way belly formation with just enuf aad's to take out our lift.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Designer 0 #34 November 2, 2002 Been thinking about a proto-type sled that you take out of a plane to test some possile landings?What do you think,probably not worth the money in Engineering and Testing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #35 November 4, 2002 ? not sure what you mean by that.. how would you test a landing with a prototype sled? I think the closest thing to testing a wingsuit landing would be to have a remote controlled "dummie" -- perhaps abyss creations (here (NSFW)) could help :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Designer 0 #36 November 6, 2002 The thought process continues!Right now attachment points are my main concern,the simple design is taking shape quite nicely!Think about a creeper about half the size and weight or a slightly larger skate board with real aerodynamic lift.Special features(I could tell you but would then have to,you know!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyThomas 0 #37 December 1, 2002 Why would I die trying to land a wing suit, or be willing to? I can't find a better way off this damn planet. God is laughing at all of us, I just know it. And if we can tolerate life long enough, he rewards us. It wasn't suicide God, it was an ACCIDENT. hell yeah, thanks. I found my way out. Peace, Thomas p.s. Gotta get my new parachute before I start on my wingsuit jumps. heh heh. Can't make it look that obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skipper 0 #38 January 20, 2003 ------------ Yes, NASA scientists calculated, that if 200 people linked in freefall, they could land without opening their parachutes. All without using wingsuits; just normal RW jumpsuit. ------------ Can you give a link where you get this info ? I search all NASA sites but nothing found about this. It is interest to calculate, may be it is possible really Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #39 January 20, 2003 Quote ------------ Yes, NASA scientists calculated, that if 200 people linked in freefall, they could land without opening their parachutes. All without using wingsuits; just normal RW jumpsuit. ------------ Can you give a link where you get this info ? I search all NASA sites but nothing found about this. It is interest to calculate, may be it is possible really It was mentioned in one of Leo Dickinson (sp?) books. I don't remember the title, unfortunately... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #40 January 20, 2003 QuoteNASA scientists calculated, that if 200 people linked in freefall, they could land without opening their parachutes.Should be easy enough to find someone who had a pro-track on the 300 way, and ask what the fall rate was.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #41 January 20, 2003 QuoteQuoteNASA scientists calculated, that if 200 people linked in freefall, they could land without opening their parachutes. Should be easy enough to find someone who had a pro-track on the 300 way, and ask what the fall rate was. Yes, NASA scientists calculated, that if 200 people linked in freefall, they could land without opening their parachutes. All without using wingsuits; just normal RW jumpsuit. **** The trick here is that there must not be any gaps (or 'holes') in the formation - just body next to body creating a continues surface. Imagine whatching a successful attempt - 200 people descending slowly as a human canopy and landing unharmed! ***** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #42 January 21, 2003 It seems like since nasa has so much money to do all these stupid tests & calculations, they should setup a 200-way test dummie group they can dump out of a c-5 and actually test this theory.. look at all the data from the dummies.. and with them being dummies they can ensure they are put as close as their calculations say they need to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakydiver 0 #43 January 21, 2003 Hmmm - I wonder what the smallest actual formation size would need to be (i.e. with gaps) for a smooth landing w/o canopies, 2000? 10000?? -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdutch 0 #44 January 21, 2003 Quote If you could find someone to create a air pillow the length of a runway wouldnl't that be plenty of room to land a birdman suit? (somewhat safely) reply] Or maybe you could get them to make a Pie as long as a runway, coconut creme, that would cushion your fall, and your forward speed. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevin922 0 #45 January 21, 2003 QuoteQuote If you could find someone to create a air pillow the length of a runway wouldnl't that be plenty of room to land a birdman suit? (somewhat safely) reply] Or maybe you could get them to make a Pie as long as a runway, coconut creme, that would cushion your fall, and your forward speed. Funny smartass.. i'm sure similar comments were made when someone said "lets try and strap this snowboard on our feet and fly around the sky with it" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rdutch 0 #46 January 22, 2003 Some people have no sence of humor, actually the idea of landing a birdman into a giant coconut creme pie sounds like fun to me. Hey you could do it on your 100th jump and save the time of getting pied, oh yeah buy the BEER in advance. Of course just so it could be chilled. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevin922 0 #47 January 22, 2003 Quote Some people have no sence of humor, actually the idea of landing a birdman into a giant coconut creme pie sounds like fun to me. Hey you could do it on your 100th jump and save the time of getting pied, oh yeah buy the BEER in advance. Of course just so it could be chilled. Ray, if I hadn't met you i would think you're a total nutcase Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites staticnewbie 0 #48 January 25, 2003 Maybe I've just seen "Dropzone" (bad Wesley Snipes film) one too many times, but why not get a huge truck with mattresses on the back, and have it drive along at about 80mph so you could drop your wingsuit onto it at relative speed of 0mph? Kind of like a clip I've seen where a guy jumps out of a plane with wingsuit on, the plane circles around and he just flies back in. With a huge grin on his face. He was wearing a rig though.... Nick This username sucks, so I'm BBKid now instead. Replies, insults, sexual favours and death threats to be sent there from now on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevin922 0 #49 January 25, 2003 QuoteMaybe I've just seen "Dropzone" (bad Wesley Snipes film) one too many times, but why not get a huge truck with mattresses on the back, and have it drive along at about 80mph so you could drop your wingsuit onto it at relative speed of 0mph? Kind of like a clip I've seen where a guy jumps out of a plane with wingsuit on, the plane circles around and he just flies back in. With a huge grin on his face. He was wearing a rig though.... Nick Um.. because that is like landing an ant on a pencil.. and if you fuck it up the first time you're dead. Waaay to dangerous there. You don't have a speedometer on the wingsuit so you can't match speeds or anything like that with any real accuracy. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ManBird 0 #50 January 25, 2003 AAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!! OK, so someone has the skills and the balls to pinpoint a truck that has a driver that magically macthes the skyflyer's forward speed. The impact into the mattress MIGHT be survivable, but it won't go easy. Drive 30 - 40 MPH, even 20. Now imagine hitting a pedestrian, with a mattress on the front of the car Then, think about how realistic such a landing would be. And while the "snowy slope" idea is at least a little more plausible, I still say it's no better than being unable to outtrack a talus."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 2 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
kevin922 0 #45 January 21, 2003 QuoteQuote If you could find someone to create a air pillow the length of a runway wouldnl't that be plenty of room to land a birdman suit? (somewhat safely) reply] Or maybe you could get them to make a Pie as long as a runway, coconut creme, that would cushion your fall, and your forward speed. Funny smartass.. i'm sure similar comments were made when someone said "lets try and strap this snowboard on our feet and fly around the sky with it" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rdutch 0 #46 January 22, 2003 Some people have no sence of humor, actually the idea of landing a birdman into a giant coconut creme pie sounds like fun to me. Hey you could do it on your 100th jump and save the time of getting pied, oh yeah buy the BEER in advance. Of course just so it could be chilled. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevin922 0 #47 January 22, 2003 Quote Some people have no sence of humor, actually the idea of landing a birdman into a giant coconut creme pie sounds like fun to me. Hey you could do it on your 100th jump and save the time of getting pied, oh yeah buy the BEER in advance. Of course just so it could be chilled. Ray, if I hadn't met you i would think you're a total nutcase Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites staticnewbie 0 #48 January 25, 2003 Maybe I've just seen "Dropzone" (bad Wesley Snipes film) one too many times, but why not get a huge truck with mattresses on the back, and have it drive along at about 80mph so you could drop your wingsuit onto it at relative speed of 0mph? Kind of like a clip I've seen where a guy jumps out of a plane with wingsuit on, the plane circles around and he just flies back in. With a huge grin on his face. He was wearing a rig though.... Nick This username sucks, so I'm BBKid now instead. Replies, insults, sexual favours and death threats to be sent there from now on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kevin922 0 #49 January 25, 2003 QuoteMaybe I've just seen "Dropzone" (bad Wesley Snipes film) one too many times, but why not get a huge truck with mattresses on the back, and have it drive along at about 80mph so you could drop your wingsuit onto it at relative speed of 0mph? Kind of like a clip I've seen where a guy jumps out of a plane with wingsuit on, the plane circles around and he just flies back in. With a huge grin on his face. He was wearing a rig though.... Nick Um.. because that is like landing an ant on a pencil.. and if you fuck it up the first time you're dead. Waaay to dangerous there. You don't have a speedometer on the wingsuit so you can't match speeds or anything like that with any real accuracy. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ManBird 0 #50 January 25, 2003 AAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!! OK, so someone has the skills and the balls to pinpoint a truck that has a driver that magically macthes the skyflyer's forward speed. The impact into the mattress MIGHT be survivable, but it won't go easy. Drive 30 - 40 MPH, even 20. Now imagine hitting a pedestrian, with a mattress on the front of the car Then, think about how realistic such a landing would be. And while the "snowy slope" idea is at least a little more plausible, I still say it's no better than being unable to outtrack a talus."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 2 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Rdutch 0 #46 January 22, 2003 Some people have no sence of humor, actually the idea of landing a birdman into a giant coconut creme pie sounds like fun to me. Hey you could do it on your 100th jump and save the time of getting pied, oh yeah buy the BEER in advance. Of course just so it could be chilled. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #47 January 22, 2003 Quote Some people have no sence of humor, actually the idea of landing a birdman into a giant coconut creme pie sounds like fun to me. Hey you could do it on your 100th jump and save the time of getting pied, oh yeah buy the BEER in advance. Of course just so it could be chilled. Ray, if I hadn't met you i would think you're a total nutcase Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
staticnewbie 0 #48 January 25, 2003 Maybe I've just seen "Dropzone" (bad Wesley Snipes film) one too many times, but why not get a huge truck with mattresses on the back, and have it drive along at about 80mph so you could drop your wingsuit onto it at relative speed of 0mph? Kind of like a clip I've seen where a guy jumps out of a plane with wingsuit on, the plane circles around and he just flies back in. With a huge grin on his face. He was wearing a rig though.... Nick This username sucks, so I'm BBKid now instead. Replies, insults, sexual favours and death threats to be sent there from now on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #49 January 25, 2003 QuoteMaybe I've just seen "Dropzone" (bad Wesley Snipes film) one too many times, but why not get a huge truck with mattresses on the back, and have it drive along at about 80mph so you could drop your wingsuit onto it at relative speed of 0mph? Kind of like a clip I've seen where a guy jumps out of a plane with wingsuit on, the plane circles around and he just flies back in. With a huge grin on his face. He was wearing a rig though.... Nick Um.. because that is like landing an ant on a pencil.. and if you fuck it up the first time you're dead. Waaay to dangerous there. You don't have a speedometer on the wingsuit so you can't match speeds or anything like that with any real accuracy. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #50 January 25, 2003 AAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!! OK, so someone has the skills and the balls to pinpoint a truck that has a driver that magically macthes the skyflyer's forward speed. The impact into the mattress MIGHT be survivable, but it won't go easy. Drive 30 - 40 MPH, even 20. Now imagine hitting a pedestrian, with a mattress on the front of the car Then, think about how realistic such a landing would be. And while the "snowy slope" idea is at least a little more plausible, I still say it's no better than being unable to outtrack a talus."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
