TomAiello 26 #1 November 30, 2002 Is anyone going to be flying wingsuits at Eloy (more than just occasionally)? I'm looking to get some wingsuiting in, so the number of folks flying will greatly impact my decision on whether or not to show up (especially given my rather attractive alternative). Who's going to be flying there?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 November 30, 2002 Skymonkeyone has anounounced he'll be there. And he seems to a a bit obcessed with his skyflyer. He's also offered up coachign so i bet there will be a lot of low timers flocking too.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #3 November 30, 2002 QuoteSkymonkeyone has anounounced he'll be there. And he seems to a a bit obsessed with his skyflyer. He's also offered up coaching so i bet there will be a lot of low timers flocking too. Yeah, but I bet he'll too busy coaching to muck about with a flailing fat guy like me. Anyone else?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #4 November 30, 2002 IF I show up I will be bringing my Classic II with me. I'm a newbie though and will be trying to learn. I'm not sure about my show up status because I have to work non-stop from December 5-16th so my coworker can go to the 300 way -- Hook high, flare on time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #5 December 1, 2002 On the contrary, Tom. I will fly with anyone. I am not looking for cash or handouts from experienced wingsuit pilots either. I doubt I will be too busy after getting the first batch of new pilots off the ground. I plan on defraying the cost of my "fun" flights with what jump tickets I get from those first flight people. I am bringing both my GTi and my SkyFlyer, plus an assload of demo suits for people, assuming they get with me in a timely manner and the suits are available. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JGarcia 0 #6 December 2, 2002 I'll be there from the afternoon of the 25th thru the 29th or 30th. I'll be bringing my Skyflyer with me and hope to get some flocking dives going as well. --JairoLow Profile, snag free helmet mount for your Sony X3000 action cam! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattersd 0 #7 December 2, 2002 Tom, I will be there from the 28th to the 1st, with my Crossbow. I you want to fly with a lead slug I'm the right choice. Let me know if you're going to be there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #8 December 2, 2002 Quote Tom, I will be there from the 28th to the 1st, with my Crossbow. I you want to fly with a lead slug I'm the right choice. Let me know if you're going to be there. What the frap is a crossbow? Is that the "other" wingsuit that didn't "fly" or "takeoff" ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #9 December 2, 2002 QuoteWhat the frap is a crossbow? The Crossbow is the "French" wingsuit. Designed by Loic, marketed by Parasport Italia. I don't think you can buy them new anymore, at least not without having a personal connection with the French guys who are flying them. The Crossbow is generally more stable, and easier to fly than the Birdman suits, but suffers from a bit lower quality construction. Because it has bigger wings, it gets flying a bit sooner (a huge plus for fixed object flights--especially for the heavies) and takes a little less skill/practice to fly well. It has about the same glide angle as a GTi (not quite as good as a Skyflyer, better than a Classic), but tends to move slower (less forward speed, more float) than a comparable Birdman suit. The wing cutaway system is quite outstanding (one handle, dead center on the chest, cuts it all away, and it takes about one minute to hook it back up). Notably video you may have seen of Crossbows includes: Some of the "Crosswind" footage. Flare getting his handles sucked into the suit, struggling to get them out, and finally getting his reserve open for a four second canopy ride (that was the scariest skydiving video I've ever seen--does anyone have the link? I think it's somewhere on headdown.net). The Little Aussie flying between the guy wires of a television tower in Texas. I kind of wish they were still marketing it. Competition spurs innovation and advance in any field.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #10 December 2, 2002 QuoteQuoteWhat the frap is a crossbow? The Crossbow is the "French" wingsuit. Designed by Loic, marketed by Parasport Italia. I don't think you can buy them new anymore, at least not without having a personal connection with the French guys who are flying them. The Crossbow is generally more stable, and easier to fly than the Birdman suits, but suffers from a bit lower quality construction. Because it has bigger wings, it gets flying a bit sooner (a huge plus for fixed object flights--especially for the heavies) and takes a little less skill/practice to fly well. It has about the same glide angle as a GTi (not quite as good as a Skyflyer, better than a Classic), but tends to move slower (less forward speed, more float) than a comparable Birdman suit. The wing cutaway system is quite outstanding (one handle, dead center on the chest, cuts it all away, and it takes about one minute to hook it back up). Notably video you may have seen of Crossbows includes: Some of the "Crosswind" footage. Flare getting his handles sucked into the suit, struggling to get them out, and finally getting his reserve open for a four second canopy ride (that was the scariest skydiving video I've ever seen--does anyone have the link? I think it's somewhere on headdown.net). The Little Aussie flying between the guy wires of a television tower in Texas. I kind of wish they were still marketing it. Competition spurs innovation and advance in any field. Interesting, sounds like besides the construction durability factor that it was a good product. Why did they quit making them ? Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #11 December 2, 2002 QuoteWhy did they quit making them ? I don't really know. Rumor is that Loic had some marketing/business type troubles with Parasport Italia, but that's just rumor.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweCow 0 #12 December 3, 2002 Yepp, here it is... Scary stuffhttp://www.headdown.net/archive/movies/lowpull.mov (Can anyone tell me how I make links "clickable"?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #13 December 3, 2002 To make a link clickable, put [_url_] before it, and [_/url_] after it. Remove the _, I just put it in so that you could see what was there. Click "Get Markup Help" just above the posting box for a complete guide. Flare's Reserve Ride. And to think, the last time I saw him, he cautioned me to be careful. Crazy Swedes!-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
basehoundsam 0 #14 December 4, 2002 Hey Tom, I will be in Marano (s.p.) for a few days and Eloy for a day or two. I'ld love to meet and get some flight time in. I am also a dealer/instructor. I'll bring my classic and my flier. I also have an extra suit or two to demo out. Send me an e-mail if you're interested in making some flights..... See yah... Jay E. jayepstein@hotmail.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinaa 0 #15 December 4, 2002 QuoteThe Little Aussie flying between the guy wires of a television tower in Texas. Does someone know where this video could be found? Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #16 December 4, 2002 "Fistfull of F-111", produced by the Australian BASE Association. Buy it here The original raw footage, from a few more camera angles, and including the humiliating after landing footage of the Little Aussie with his head stuck in a cactus, is available for a reasonable fee from the ground cameraman, who moonlights as the BASE moderator on DZ.com. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinaa 0 #17 December 4, 2002 LOL.Thanks. Igor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bps 0 #18 December 7, 2002 Hi Tom -- I'll be in Phoenix for a bucket of demos from 28 Dec to 4 Jan. But it looks like I will be down at Eloy on the 1st with my GTi (which is due to arrive any day now). I'm sure I'll be busy trying to learn it's flight characteristics, but would absolutely love to fly with you. Not to mention that I'm being housed in a tall hotel in Phoenix... Oops! I'll take that one to the other forum or private email... Blue Skies, Bryan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallenMan 0 #19 December 7, 2002 Is anyone going to fly a wingsuit on Jan 11/12? I know it's not the holiday boogie, but I'll be on a business trip to Phoenix for a couple of days and planned to drive down to Eloy with my SkyFlyer over the weekend. -D "Whatever you are, be a good one." (Abraham Lincoln) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
basehoundsam 0 #20 December 8, 2002 Call me bird-boy....... I have BIG plans for you this week. Jay Epstein Ramirez www.adrenalineexploits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
