pilotdave 0 #1 September 18, 2003 I've seen deluxe backpads on other rigs, but what exactly does RWS do, and is it worth it? What other options are a MUST? Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blahr 0 #2 September 18, 2003 I dont think any options are a must. Thats why they are options That said, my new one has a Skyhook. I went with the vector over other rigs because of that feature. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joris 0 #3 September 18, 2003 Hi Dave, RWS puts extra padding in the backpad which makes it extremely comfortable. I wouldn't say a MUST, but personally I wouldn't like to have my next Vector without: -Trulok toggle system -Stainless Steel hardware -Freefly handle (looks like pull-out, is throw out) -Split Color option -Custom fit (ring)harness -Anti-twist risers Joris.ICARUS Canopies Europe c/ Valles s/n, El Ramassar 08520 Las Franquesas Barcelona, SPAIN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #4 September 18, 2003 QuoteWhat other options are a MUST? imho, of course.... VGH harness (hip rings). Collapsible main p/c. Anti twist tubes in the risers. I wouldn't pay the extra for stainless on a Vector3; the standard hardware that RWS uses (I believe it's a nickel plate) looks way sharp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronnie 0 #5 September 18, 2003 My girlfriend has the back pad on her Micron and I don't on my Micron. We both say they are super comfortable. She is pretty thin and does not have a lot of muscle or fat surrounding the bones in her back, so that was her decision maker. I have more muscle from years of surfing and rock climbing, so I left the back pad out. It is definitely not a must. I believe the only musts are: Riser Housings Hip Rings Trulock Toggles Centerline pilot chute Have fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #6 September 18, 2003 Quote I believe the only musts are: Riser Housings Hip Rings Trulock Toggles Centerline pilot chute Have fun. ditto. edited to add: oh yeah, lisa was dead-on about the nickel finish. i think it looks quite bad-ass. arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #7 September 19, 2003 Quote I wouldn't pay the extra for stainless on a Vector3; the standard hardware that RWS uses (I believe it's a nickel plate) looks way sharp. Cool. Very good ($100) piece of info. Thanks for all the other info. I think I'll do without the deluxe backpad. I tried a javelin odyssey that had velcoless toggles. On my first jump, i stuck a gloved finger right through the loop of stowed brake line without realizing it before unstowing the brakes. Not a major problem, just caught me by surprise. With my velcro toggles, I always carefully stow the excess brakeline. I don't see this as a huge reason not to get the trulock toggles since I'd just be more careful with them, but should it be a consideration? I'm ready to order this thing as soon as I get the colors looking right. Why do they have to give so many choices?? Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #8 September 19, 2003 RWS loves me: I ordered >>>every<<< possible option plus custom embroidery. after realizing that my "used car/hi mile" was 11 years NEWER than my rig, I decided to go all out for the >1st< time. By the time November gets here, I will owe at least 4 cases of beer for gear alone. -Grant p.s. jumpsuit made to match rig(attch) ("back" distorted= I made a big wrinkle in it)_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
x3mcam 0 #9 September 19, 2003 .... Anti Twist risers??? Could someone pls explain what the heck those are?? I'd love those! tomppa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #10 September 20, 2003 ??I don't know either...my Chiropractor said"Hey, why not, it couldn't hurt....right?"_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #11 September 20, 2003 The antitwist risers are the ones that have hard riser housings in them.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #12 September 22, 2003 QuoteThe antitwist risers are the ones that have hard riser housings in them. And you can retrofit this little 4 or 5 inch flexible metal tube ( it is like the cutaway cable housing in your rig that traverses your yolk and mudflaps and pokes out at your 3 rings. But is only a few inches in length and has an end cap.) into other risers for less than 50 bucks. If you fly at heavy wingloads or even moderate wing loads on canopys that are famous for spinning up they are a good idea. Several experiments have been conducted in a hanging harness with a weight scale to show that they are effective at reducing the pressure required to cuttaway a bad main. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
x3mcam 0 #13 October 1, 2003 mmmmmmmmkay, I've got thouse, hard cut away cable housings I think RWS calls them... t Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betzilla 56 #14 October 1, 2003 QuoteI wouldn't say a MUST, but personally I wouldn't like to have my next Vector without: -Trulok toggle system -Anti-twist risers Tru Lok toggle and anti-twist risers are standard on Vector III's now. Bonus! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
webracer 0 #15 October 2, 2003 I use RWS trulock/anti-twist risers on my rigs, even though neither of them is an RWS creation. Lately though, their customer service is dropping, risers have been on order since July and still aren't here yet (that's kinda pissing me off). IMO the risers are the best out there. I use Mirage D-bags in my Odyssey too (again personal pref).Troy I am now free to exercise my downward mobility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites