In case you didn't know....

[LouDiamond 1]

It is possible to do a Birdman on birdman rodeo. Kevin922 and I sort of pulled one off this weekend. The footage isn't great due to the perspective but it is possible to do
Another exit that has promise is a side body(wrist to wrist) exit out of the otter. Basically a step off and fall similar to what FF's do on the hill. The catch is that BOTH birdman(cough cough) have to open up at the same time other wise one flies while the other continues to drop.

In case you were wondering, dead air over a BM is about 1- 1 1/2 feet above the BM, otherwise you can fly directly over the lower BM all day long. if you do catch the dead air, the bump is pretty gentle since your already pretty much on top of the other BM. The one receiving the bump can go into a bit of a spin but it's all good. And yes, we got it on video

Was also able to make 2 night BM (batman?) jumps this weekend. Pretty neat with all the lights below, well worth doing and nothing really out of the ordinary as far as sequence of events, it was just dark
Did some back flying right out of the door as well as in flight. The arms really need to be pushed down and the wing stretched taught for it to work. The exit was just like a normal exit except with the relative wind on your back.

Diving out went well, just like a dive out on a RW dive. Dove toward the tail, feet on ass,wings in. Once out, opened up the arms and straightened the legs and viola, one big swoop straight out the back.

Video was excellent and is going to the editing machine ASAP. Hope you have a fat tube becasue this one is going to be big

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[kevin922 0]

Video of side body jump found here i'm sure the one Lou is doing is going to encompass a bunch of jumps we did and have music :)

[ManBird 0]

I wish that spinout didn't look so cool.

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[SkymonkeyONE 4]

Get on it, son! Hooty HOO!

[diveout 0]

Which two very experienced tandem instructors and birdmen will be the first to combine the two?

Tandem skysurfing was done, as well as tandem base, why not birds (it hasn't been done yet has it)?

[fly 0]

Been done

Apparently worked better when the passenger had the wings on.

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

That was done some time ago, my brother.

[leroydb 0]

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That was done some time ago, my brother.

it was? where is the video? it didnt happen unless there is video at leat pics

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

There are definitly pics. This was done at either DeLand with Vladi and someone, or overseas wih another pair; possibly Wendy Smith on front. Kim, did you do this? The description I remember reading said that whille the glide was OK, it was nothing like a single birdman.

Chuck

[kevin922 0]

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There are definitly pics. This was done at either DeLand with Vladi and someone, or overseas wih another pair; possibly Wendy Smith on front. Kim, did you do this? The description I remember reading said that whille the glide was OK, it was nothing like a single birdman.

Chuck

Well duh, is a tandem anything like a single skydive? :)

[leroydb 0]

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There are definitly pics. This was done at either DeLand with Vladi and someone, or overseas wih another pair; possibly Wendy Smith on front. Kim, did you do this? The description I remember reading said that whille the glide was OK, it was nothing like a single birdman.

Chuck

Well duh, is a tandem anything like a single skydive? :)

duh you still have the drough behind you holding you back... unless they didnt pitch it

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[freakydiver 0]

Dudes from Orange ROCK!!!!

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[SkymonkeyONE 4]

The drogue was not pitched until near pull time, so no, it was not limiting their glide.

[leroydb 0]

so they should or might have got as slow as 100mph? I have done so with a small female on my back..... but no big heavy type tandem chute

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[mccordia 74]

I have a tandem BM jump on video at home (it was part of a Dutch TV show)

The passenger didn't realy do that well from what I recall (he was basicly arched like a mad-man) but you could see the drogue go back at a 20 to 30 degree angle. With a bit of creative flying from the camera-man it 'looked' realy cool..:)

JC
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[leroydb 0]

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I have a tandem BM jump on video at home (it was part of a Dutch TV show)

The passenger didn't realy do that well from what I recall (he was basicly arched like a mad-man) but you could see the drogue go back at a 20 to 30 degree angle. With a bit of creative flying from the camera-man it 'looked' realy cool..:)

Can you post the clip to he ftp sitE?

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[LouDiamond 1]

Pull out your fat tubes and get it while it's hot. There's more where that came from and now that kevin has the space suit expect to see a UFO near you
http://www.interone.net/bmo.wmv

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[gus 1]

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Pull out your fat tubes and get it while it's hot.

You got some interesting exits going on there, ever pull off the birdman rodeo?

And nice flyby under canopy, you really see how fast you're moving with the suit on. I hope it was intentional .

Gus

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[LouDiamond 1]

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You got some interesting exits going on there, ever pull off the birdman rodeo?

We were launching a 2 man piece joined at the wrist that kind of turned into a pseudo freefly exit to a BM flight, it's pretty interesting but it does work. The rodeo went pretty good. We plan on filming another one soon. We did a canopy swoop yesterday with smoke but didn't capture it from the canopy aspect, we also plan on filming another one of those as well.We're kind of in a transition period since we both changed from GTIs to Skyflyer/Skyflyer3 and are getting used to the slight differences.

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[kevin922 0]

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Pull out your fat tubes and get it while it's hot.

You got some interesting exits going on there, ever pull off the birdman rodeo?

And nice flyby under canopy, you really see how fast you're moving with the suit on. I hope it was intentional .

Gus

We did a kick ass fly by this weekend.. getting the approach just right on BM fly bys is difficult.. hard to judge your approach and decent speeds, this weekend was the best yet (but like lou said we didn't get much video) I got within 50 feet (that was the guy's best estimate under canopy).. yes they are all intentional and well planned. Hopefully we'll get it done just right and have some great footage. The space suit is quite the looker!

[jtgadget 0]

Let's do it Dan!! Harnessing up may be a bitch. I'm game

[cpoxon 0]

Whilst going through my back issues of Skydiving researching fatality information, I also pulled out any historical wingsuit stuff. I may post it all one day, but for now,

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Skydiving #227 - June 2000

Tandem master Michael "Mad Dog" Maguire and experienced skydiver John Loken made a tandem BirdMan wing suit jump last month as Skydive DeLand in Florida. The passenger, Loken, wore the wingsuit; Maguire had on a standard jumpsuit. "We went drogueless for most of the freefall portion - it went well, we covered a lot of ground, " said Loken. "After that I wanted Mad Dog to do a biplane tandem [both in wing suits] but he said 'no way.'"

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Skydiving #235 - Februyary 2001

A few jumpers recently made several tandem wingsuit jumps at Skydive DeLand in Florida. Here Vladi Pesa and Jon Loken are shown a few seconds after exiting a Skyvan in late December; Pesa is acting as the instrcutor. Pesa said the jump was preceded by a long session on the ground. "we went through all possible procedures completely hooked up on the ground in order to familairize ourselves with every situation: exit, freefall, communication in freefall, drogue deployment and release, wing release, malfunctions, etc." he said. The flight plan called for an exit at 13,5000 feet, drogueless gliding until 8,000 feet, and main canopy deployment at 6,000 feet. The subsequent jump went smoothly. "Our performance wasn't as good as on a solo wingsuit jump," Pesa reported, "but the high forward and pretty slow vertical speed was still impressive." The pair used suits built by BirdMan International with a "Sygma" (sic) rig from the Relative Workshop. Both skydivers are quite experienced, with several thousand jumps each.

[kevin922 0]

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Whilst going through my back issues of Skydiving researching fatality information, I also pulled out any historical wingsuit stuff. I may post it all one day, but for now,

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Skydiving #227 - June 2000

Tandem master Michael "Mad Dog" Maguire and experienced skydiver John Loken made a tandem BirdMan wing suit jump last month as Skydive DeLand in Florida. The passenger, Loken, wore the wingsuit; Maguire had on a standard jumpsuit. "We went drogueless for most of the freefall portion - it went well, we covered a lot of ground, " said Loken. "After that I wanted Mad Dog to do a biplane tandem [both in wing suits] but he said 'no way.'"

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Skydiving #235 - Februyary 2001

A few jumpers recently made several tandem wingsuit jumps at Skydive DeLand in Florida. Here Vladi Pesa and Jon Loken are shown a few seconds after exiting a Skyvan in late December; Pesa is acting as the instrcutor. Pesa said the jump was preceded by a long session on the ground. "we went through all possible procedures completely hooked up on the ground in order to familairize ourselves with every situation: exit, freefall, communication in freefall, drogue deployment and release, wing release, malfunctions, etc." he said. The flight plan called for an exit at 13,5000 feet, drogueless gliding until 8,000 feet, and main canopy deployment at 6,000 feet. The subsequent jump went smoothly. "Our performance wasn't as good as on a solo wingsuit jump," Pesa reported, "but the high forward and pretty slow vertical speed was still impressive." The pair used suits built by BirdMan International with a "Sygma" (sic) rig from the Relative Workshop. Both skydivers are quite experienced, with several thousand jumps each.

i didn't think about doing a tandem like that, that seems safe to me!

Now i wanna do that :)