Skyray revisited

[ManBird 0]

Just browsed the Skyray site for no reason and noticed that they claim that it has a glide ratio of 2:3. So it would only move forwards about 6'700 feet in a 10'000 foot descent? There were claims that they could outglide wingsuits, but even breaking 1:1 is easy to achieve on anyone's first Classic jump.

On Robert's Arco jump, he may have had over a 6:1 glide ratio (assuming a 1'500 ft descent (not including canopy ride) over 63 seconds at about 110 MPH forwards (pessimistic estimates)):

((110 / 63) * 5,280) / 1,500 = ~6.15

I heard he may have been traveling about 140 MPH horizontally, which would put it at almost 8:1, but I'll stick with what I consider the more realistic figure. Even if I'm off in the other direction and it's down to like 4:1, that's still way over the Skyray claim.

For some reason I was under the impression that the Skyray's glide ratio was higher than that? Am I missing something? Is it just that it's late and I'm tired and can't do math right now?

"¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯"

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[leroydb 0]

i wana get a skyray but they arent selling them i gues.... grrr damn it i want one

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[JayhawkJumper 0]

Has anyone also seen the wings designed by some guy in Europe that were part rigid and part inflatable. I saw them on the internet a while back, but there were pictures of the guy in flight with them and they were huge, with what looked like a 6-8 foot wingspan. Do you think the reason nobody is really flying rigid wings around is because of the space on the plane/exit issue?

[mccordia 74]

I think it's also because the human flight part is getting less and less.
With a birman suit it's still the human body that basicly functions as the airplane body.

But those rigid wing designs more and more go towards a glider-plane under which your hanging.
And if fitting those things in a big otter or skyvan is already a big issue...almost nobody would be able to jump them...

JC
FlyLikeBrick
I'm an Athlete?

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

Well, personally, I think if I were going to spring for a rigid wing, I think I would be more interested in the Apache. It's made here in the USA (thus more easily accessible for us here), costs about the same, and appears it be easier to fly and ditch if you lose control. You lay on top of an Apache.

Chuck

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Well, personally, I think if I were going to spring for a rigid wing, I think I would be more interested in the Apache. It's made here in the USA (thus more easily accessible for us here), costs about the same, and appears it be easier to fly and ditch if you lose control. You lay on top of an Apache.

Chuck

where is the website for that

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

hey, Dumbascus, are you Syrias? Do a search or just read a parachutist or skydiving magazine from about two years ago; they advertised every month.

[leroydb 0]

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hey, Dumbascus, are you Syrias? Do a search or just read a parachutist or skydiving magazine from about two years ago; they advertised every month.

ok i did a search previously.. thats why i asked evryone here. i assumed that you would have thought that I ahd already done that.

anyway the apache site looks like it is down...
anyone haev any info

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

Correct. I just ran the old URL and it's now owned by a vintage race team...WTF? Oh well, anyway, they are made at the Indianapolis Raceway, by one of the carbon fiber racecar body shops. Not sure if the lack of link indicates the shop has gone under or not. It might be worth a try to get the phone number for the business (Apache Racing) and try to give them a call.

Chuck

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Try running the old URL through this:

http://www.archive.org/

And let me know what the URL is. I'd like to check it out.

[ManBird 0]

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Has anyone also seen the wings designed by some guy in Europe that were part rigid and part inflatable. I saw them on the internet a while back, but there were pictures of the guy in flight with them and they were huge, with what looked like a 6-8 foot wingspan. Do you think the reason nobody is really flying rigid wings around is because of the space on the plane/exit issue?

Yeah, I did. While the technology is, of course, greatly improved, I have 74 reasons to not attach rigid wings to my body.

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Is this what you are looking for? The translation is bad, but you'll get the idea:

http://216.239.37.120/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://para-net.org/paramag/archives/n188/article/article.html

[ManBird 0]

My erroneous figures were pointed out today. kmh, not mph. I knew that, but I didn't write it or bother to convert it. It was late, I was tired. F**k off. I have no skillz. I'll buy beer.

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[ManBird 0]

OK, scratch everything. As it turns out, I'm a toital retard. Yes, toital. So the more realistic figures I've received put the glide ratio at a little over 2:1 on the above mentioned jump. It just doesn't look like it, though. I mean, if he's falling ~40 MPH and travelling forwards at about ~80 MPH, give or take a few MPH on each direction, then, why does the smoke trail look so flat? You and your mirrors.

Everyone is lying to me and pissing in my shoes. Well, at least I'm pissing in my shoes. It's awesome.

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