kimgriffin 0 #1 May 20, 2003 From: Bowie Newbie (Full Profile) May 20, 2003, 12:49 PM Post #8 of 9 (10 views) Copy Shortcut I just got my new GTI and i cant fly that as well as my old classic. is ther different body positions ??????????? and What i have tryed different body positions but my best is 112 sec 79 kmt (TAS). In my classic i always fly ower 2 min and whith speed between 60 - 70 kmt TAS. From: kimgriffin Enthusiast (Full Profile) May 20, 2003, 1:37 PM Post #9 of 9 (2 views) Copy Shortcut Yes, the GTi is pickier than the Classic suit in that you have to have your arms a certain way, dearched, legs out, etc. Just as the Skyflyer and S3 are even more picky than the GTi. On the GTi, if you have your arms turned over the wrong way (very common mistake) or you are pulling on the wing too much or too little, you will more easily distort the wing than on the Classic. The longer arm wing gets more easily distorted by having your arms in the incorrect position. This will decrease the efficiency of the wing and take away from your lift. If you look at Jari's arms in this attached pic, you'll get the idea. Make sure you let your wings inflate fully (you should not pull on the wings' binding tapes but can't let the wing flap by letting the wing be too loose), your shoulders should be rounded, middle of your back de-arched, butt up slightly, legs extended with toes pointed - all at the same time as being relaxed. What I have learned from experience is that it just takes flying to learn your suit. Then the better speeds should come. I was almost ready to turn my Skyflyer back in when I got it because I was sucking big time. It took at least 10 jumps before I even felt confident that I wouldn't go low jumping with guys that were bigger than me. Patience is a virtue - I think. Good luck! ~Kim BirdMan Inc-Kimberly Griffin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #2 May 20, 2003 So where's the pic? ;)"¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimgriffin 0 #3 May 21, 2003 Oppps, sorry! Here it is. Arm position is good but he's not de-arched which would be a more ideal body position. (He's trying to stay with the faster falling camera man though.) ~Kim -Kimberly Griffin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blair700 0 #4 May 21, 2003 Thanks Kim, cool pic....ummm about the arms. Do you roll them over so far as to make your elbow ponit directly up and the back of your hand into the relative wind....or is it only rolling your arm over enough to point your elbow towards your feet or backwards, and your thumbs being the most forward point on your hand. This pic looks like the latter, but I know its more important to maintain the profile of the wings, not so much which way your elbow and hand is pointing. I'm just trying to figure out if I'm overdoing it by rolling my arms to far forward, I have less than a dozen jumps, does this even make sense? I also have the tendency to keep my arms straight as apposed to bending at the elbow, I am working on that. Thanks Blair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #5 May 21, 2003 I roll my elbows forward and sort of lead with my wrist bones on my SF3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimgriffin 0 #6 May 22, 2003 Hi Blair. No, I believe if your elbows are pointing up too far then that could distort your wings. You are very right about that it matters most that the wing is inflated and not distorted. I have my arms rolled under just enough that my palms and elbows are facing my feet. My elbows are turned slight up. Sometimes people DO over do it for sure. There's this fine point between the striving towards the ideal body position and also being relaxed. Long flights... Kim-Kimberly Griffin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #7 May 22, 2003 I find with myself on both of my suits, that I get my best times when I focus on relaxing as opposed to body position. Don't get me wrong, body position is important, but if you are relaxed the suit flys like it is supposed too, more or less. All I do from there is slightly tweak depending on what I am doing. my 3 centavosLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowie 0 #8 May 24, 2003 Hi Kim thancks for the info. I will start practicing so wee might be flocking some day. Ive heard that someone from Bm is comming to extremsportsweek in norway this year maybe ill see you there Blue sky BoBo Wienberg vimeo.com/bowienberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bowie 0 #9 May 26, 2003 Hi I tried to do exactly what you said today. it feels a lot better and i gain a lot more forward speed but i only do 105 sec on my pro track and it is still not as good as in my classic.hmmmpfany good tips???? blue sky Bo Bo Wienberg vimeo.com/bowienberg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites