On the radar

[ManBird 0]

Talonsky and I had a couple great flights together (as well as taking Zenister on his first flight). We stayed very relative for a most of the flight on our first jump of the day. When we flew right next to each other, we suddenly became "big" enough to appear to be an aircraft on PDX's radar. Some heads were scratched when something appeared near the Mulino airport and then disappeared over Skydive Oregon. Joe Weber (DZO) had to call in and explain what happened, and what wingsuits are, to PDX. :)

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[freeflyfrog 0]

I'm thinking I may have to try this, how do you say, "Bird Man" suit... soon!

[Faber 0]

hahaha
now find a new dz,make a triangel flock dive and see if they try to get ya in their figthers

cool one

Stay safe
Stefan Faber

[Zenister 0]

was pretty neat to hear about..

i was trying to talk them into a bigway tracking dive with everyone trailing a pie pan on an ankle..as it spins in the wind it would effectively create tetrahedrons which have a MUCH larger radar cross section... on a clear day when they have the filter levels set low it would probably look like the otter split into two equal sized aircraft..

i also wonder about the reflective properties of Kevins shiny suit and if it has a larger cross section than a normal BM suit...

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[kevin922 0]

Uh i don't know much about things like this, but are you sure that is what it was?? only 2 people flocking together was considered big enough to show up on a radar screen? how come big way belly flyers don't do that theN??

[ManBird 0]

They might, but I'm assuming that when they only show up in one spot over a drop zone, no questions are asked. But when something appears on the radar, travels for a couple miles, and then disappears, it probably looks a little weird. Also, a big may not be "shaped" in a way that would trigger anything on a radar.

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[ryoder 1,590]

Rumor has it that a strange prototype wingsuit has been seen during night jumps at Groom Lake NV. The suit is reportedly made of a very heavy flat black fabric and the trailing edges of the wings and tail are cut in a saw-tooth pattern instead of being straight. Bird-Man Inc has refused to explain the purpose of the new fabic or even acknowledge the existence of the suit. A witness also reported seeing test jumpers wearing full-face helmets with an odd copper-colored tint on the lenses.

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[Zenister 0]

couldnt tell you about air traffic control radar, but the on the radar system i work with (JSTARS) its a matter of horizontal velocity..a big way RW jump MIGHT show up breifly when the angle was right but only for a single frame..it just doesnt "move" any real direction but down..wingsuits do.. even a nice tight tracking dive would show up if the fliters were low enough..

its a combination of surface area (crosssection), reflectivity and detected horizontal speed..

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couldnt tell you about air traffic control radar, but the on the radar system i work with (JSTARS) its a matter of horizontal velocity..a big way RW jump MIGHT show up breifly when the angle was right but only for a single frame..it just doesnt "move" any real direction but down..wingsuits do.. even a nice tight tracking dive would show up if the fliters were low enough..

its a combination of surface area (crosssection), reflectivity and detected horizontal speed..

Yeah... that's what I meant. That. I swear. Take it from the man who knows this stuff.

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