Birdman & Pullouts?

[bradrigden 0]

Whats the view on pullouts when it comes to bird-man and are types of pullouts banned. Also what are the implications of kill lines?

Regards,

Brad.

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

We don't recommend the use of pullouts, but there are several people out there who post here (J.P. Furnari) who does it regularly with no problem.

[Rdutch 0]

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Whats the view on pullouts when it comes to bird-man and are types of pullouts banned. Also what are the implications of kill lines?

Regards,

Brad.

Just like the Monkey said, not recomended, but people do use them. I won't let anyone do their first jump with a pull out. Once you have a few jumps under your belt, its up to you, but still not advised.

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[bbarnhouse 0]

This from the BirdMan Instructor Check list for first flight.

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Equipment:
BOC equipped harness.
•No pullout, ROL or ripcord systems will be allowed
•No leg strap mounted pilot system is allowed

From BirdMan Flight Manual:

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>Do not use pull-out pilot chute
> Do not use a bungee-type collapsible pilot chute
> Do not use a leg strap mounted pilot chute.
>Use only a BOC throw-out pilot chute with a wing suit.

Hope that helpsBB

[ManBird 0]

To answer the other half of your question, kill-line PCs have no implications. They function just as well with a wingsuit as they do without one, as they (usually) don't collapse until after they do their job.

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[LouDiamond 1]

Bungees are verboten as well. Had a guy come up at WFFC that wanted to jump but had a bungee pilot chute on his gear. No can do.

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[masher 1]

What s a bungee collapsible PC?

I know kill line, and non-collapsible....

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[julesUK 0]

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What s a bungee collapsible PC?

The pilot chute is held in a collapsed state by a length of bungee cord. When you throw it out into a high-speed airflow it inflates, the bungee stretches and you have a working pilot chute. Once it's done its job it deflates again.

A very bad idea for BASE (see fatality #51) or anywhere else where the airflow is less than terminal - ie wingsuits

Jules

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

Bungees only inflate after you reach a certain airspeed. Below that airspeed, the bungee cord keeps the center pulled down and collapsed. They suck for swoopers as well because the speed of the dive reinflates them. They were fairly popular about a decade ago.

[diablopilot 2]

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but there are several people out there who post here (J.P. Furnari) who does it regularly with no problem.

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I too do not recommend it, nor do I alow those I'm coaching for first time jumps use one. I made my first 30 or so on a convertible system, that alowed me to switch the rig from pull-out to throw out in about 2 minutes without repacking. Then that got to be a pain.

It works well for me, no hesitation, line twists, or malfunctions. But seeing that those more experienced than myself (Jari) have deemed it a bad idea, thats my recomendation as well (I think he's jumped one as well).

High performance crossbraced canopies are not recomended either. Hmmm....



Edit: Oh yeah, Bungees = Black Death, IMO. For any type of Skydiving.

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