skydonkey 0 #1 October 10, 2003 I'm hoping to go BM next year. I talked to an Instructor at my DZ about it and he mentioned that he is having a lot of agro with his shoulder due to a rotator cup injury. He says that the arm position during flight is awkward as you have to push down with your arms rotated such that the backs of your hands are to earth. I also have a similar injury from ten years ago which has started giving me some trouble recently (getting old / crappy cold British climate). Is there anything that I can concentrate on when starting out which will help? I am pretty athletic but struggle with some excercises that work the shoulder in this direction. My Instructor also talked about the Matter suit and thinks that this requires the more natural arm position i.e. Palms to earth.?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #2 October 10, 2003 You can fly a BirdMan suit palms to earth, as well. On the Skyflyer and Skyflyer 3, it helps to rotate your arm for the deflectors to work better, but makes no real difference on the GTi or Classic. Flying palm to earth is exactly what I recommend to those with healed up shoulder injuries. Those with current shoulder injuries should not fly a wingsuit until they've recovered."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #3 October 10, 2003 The Matter suit requires you to pretty much fly palm to earth if you want to fly the wing correctly. On the Birdman suits in general you can fly them with palms down or with your palms bent back toward your body, much like when you grab your wing tips. CLICK ME As far as your injury goes, you will have to play with your arm position to find which way works for you. If you have a hard time in general holding your arms out to the sides you might have to build up your Birdman specific muscle strength in that shoulder. It should not be an issue unless you have a very bad or recent shoulder injury. A few people I have taken up have had shoulder problems as well and they didn't find it overly hard on their shoulder(s) Again, your injury may or may not be compatabile. The only way to know is to try it."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydonkey 0 #4 October 10, 2003 I'm some way with experience yet, but was planning to get over to De land or Sebastian around April time, is there any good coaching to be had there and whats the min. Jump No. required? Blue ones Hey you get offa ma cloud!! - didn't know Mick Jagger did BM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #5 October 10, 2003 There are coaches left and right and April is the PERFECT time to go. They recommend 200 jumps, but there... well... you'll see."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #6 October 10, 2003 Actually 500 jumps is what is recommended, but we (BM-I's) will take people with 200 very-current jumps and demonstrated airskills if you really want to push it. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #7 October 10, 2003 AFAIK there aren't any BMI's at Sebastian - yet Look me up if you come to Seb though; once you've gotten the first one out of the way I'd love to go flock with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
