krkeenan 0 #1 November 3, 2003 I'm definitely hooked on BM flying. I have a nice used GTI, which I took out for 6 jumps this weekend. I'm grateful for this forum and all the helpful stuff I've read here. Here's my question. I got initial briefing and checkout from my local BM guru, but our schedules differ, and I still have not been able to jump with him or any other BM-I. I'm jumping in Puerto Rico, and while it is a nice place, it's no DeLand or Perris when it comes to skydiving. I'm mostly teaching myself to fly the suit, and I'm looking for advice as to what training maneuvers, etc. to work on to get my skills up. I have a good deal of skydiving experience, and a fair amount of time in powered airplanes. What I have done so far is about what I would do in checking out a new type of airplane - straight flight, turns, etc. I've tried a few barrel rolls and inverted flight. These still need work, but I think I'm getting the hang of it. Has anyone written up a training syllabus for jumps past the initial checkout, or at least a progression of skills to be mastered before other things are tried ? I'm anxious to get in the air with others, since I think that's got to be the best way to enjoy BM flying. I think its incredible what these folks have done in the development of this suit. I've been jumping for quite a while, and the history of our sport is full of people who tried to make this work and only succeeded in getting killed. I was having visions of the movie, "Gypsy Moths", as I was flying this weekend. Anyway, enough BS. If anyone has some ideas of stuff for me to practice until i get over to the mainland, I'd appreciate it. Kevin K. Squawking in the Nest====================== Seasons don't fear the Reaper, nor do the Wind, the Sun, or the Rain... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivanrockon 0 #2 November 3, 2003 Kevin hope you get the info you are asking for, but:Quote....my local BM guru... are you talking about me? One thing for sure, I am quite desperate seeing you fly your wingsuit so much and me not having my suit (due to corrections in measurements) to fly mine, so hopefully I'll receive some good news from Birdman this week or better yet...my suit Ivan "Rock On" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krkeenan 0 #3 November 4, 2003 Quote....my local BM guru... are you talking about me? *** Ivan - I actually had the other guru in mind (Julio), but I will be very pleased to fly with anyone who straps on some wings. kevin====================== Seasons don't fear the Reaper, nor do the Wind, the Sun, or the Rain... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #4 November 4, 2003 best thing to do is fl with people that are better than you. That will make you work ALOT harder so you can keep "up" with them. If you can't fly with others... Get out about 3-4 miles out with a slight to moderate tailwind and that will be your motivation to get back... JOKING... only get out that far if you are pretty sure you can get back.Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krkeenan 0 #5 November 4, 2003 QuoteGet out about 3-4 miles out with a slight to moderate tailwind and that will be your motivation to get back... Where we jump in Puerto Rico is about 1/2 mile from the ocean, which is usually where the wind is from. I'm not sure if I will start from 3-4 mi. out, but flying in from over the ocean to dry land will indeed be a strong motivator. If I come back to the DZ wet and covered with seaweed, everyone will know that I'm not as good as I thought I was. kevin====================== Seasons don't fear the Reaper, nor do the Wind, the Sun, or the Rain... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YM4 0 #6 November 4, 2003 Kevin, Just got back from Mass. I should have taken rig and WSuit the weather this saturday was almost like Puerto Rico, WAAAAARM! Sorry for not jumping with you, but you know got to work at the DZ. Promise, my next Bird flight will be with you. I know ill be hard to get a two way of an S3 and a GTI out of a cessna but we will get it. JAJA! See ya this weekend"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, It's the size of the fight in the dog!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krkeenan 0 #7 November 4, 2003 Quote I know ill be hard to get a two way of an S3 and a GTI out of a cessna but we will get it. JAJA! I'll tie a pilot chute to your foot. That should make us even.====================== Seasons don't fear the Reaper, nor do the Wind, the Sun, or the Rain... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #8 November 4, 2003 this is totally not hard... Note: You both with eventually be on the [strut] stabilizer 1. All you do is have the first person slowly crawl out on the stabilizer and crawl out to the step, make sure your left foot is on the step. 2. The second person can Either dive or basically do the same thing as the 1st oerson, he/she would have their right foot on the step thats about all there is to that... Just ensure the 1st guy give a good head count .... happy jumpsLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krkeenan 0 #9 November 4, 2003 Quote Note: You both with eventually be on the stabilizer I'm not sure what you are calling the "stabilizer". It sounds like what I usually hear of as the wing strut. Anyway, that sounds like a good plan for simultaneous exit on line of flight. BM operations from a Cessna seem tough for me, so far. It's pretty hard to do much climbing around outside the door without exposing wings and getting pulled off. There's also the limited arm reach due to the wings. I'm sure a little more practice is all I need. Thanks for the advice. kevin====================== Seasons don't fear the Reaper, nor do the Wind, the Sun, or the Rain... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #10 November 4, 2003 you are correct.... I was mistaken... I am on some super narcotics right now.... I broke my foot on jump #340 Actaully it is a stabilizer to me... It keeps me stabl As I am outside the planeLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YM4 0 #11 November 4, 2003 Quote this is totally not hard... Im just kidding, we exit two ways without a problem, and both going out poised."It's not the size of the dog in the fight, It's the size of the fight in the dog!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirochristie 0 #12 November 5, 2003 Quoteare you talking about me?...QuoteIvan - I actually had the other guru in mind (Julio) OUCH!.....jajajajajajaja!!!!LiquidSky @(^_^)@ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivanrockon 0 #13 November 5, 2003 QuoteOUCH!.....jajajajajajaja!!!! "Fear is healthy; it keeps you alive!!" , Christie Ouch!??? Why should I be "ouching" for? I think you've missed the whole point and deviated from the subject. There is no guru wingsuit in PR, but Kevin was kind enough to give me and Julio the "guru title"....so we (Julio & I) should be thankful for it Kevin, maybe you have seen it already but here they talk about some things to practice for Still waiting for my suit....soon we will be flocking! Edited: Because sometimes I can't spell right Ivan "Rock On" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
