shah269 0 #1 August 24, 2011 AAD or no AAD....that is the question. These things really hold their value so well! $1,400 new Cypress or $1,100 two year old used, never fired. Well there are always those Argusus's things.... But I do need A suit...tired of "Barrowing" Thoughts?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinciflies 0 #2 August 24, 2011 There are lots of threads about the pros and cons of AADs. On the whole they are more likely to save your life than to cause you a problem. How confident are you of your ability to remain conscious and complete your EPs? Barrowing??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver604 0 #3 August 24, 2011 I just spent $1480.00 Can for a Vigil 2. best money I ever spent,,,besides that considering my life insurance doesn't cover skydiving or aviation related activities the wife won't let me jump without one "The greater danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." - Michelangelo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #4 August 24, 2011 QuoteBut I do need A suit...tired of "Barrowing" Most of your questions and thoughts on DZ.com have seemed pretty reasonable, but debating on whether to spend your money on a jumpsuit before an AAD is putting you dangerously close to the New-age Skydiving Dumbass zone. (No moderators, that wasn't a personal attack. "New-age Skydiving Dumbass" is an actual category of skydiver and "the zone" is where they hang out when they sign on to dz.com)Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #5 August 24, 2011 Yeah I know a very serious dumb ass thought.... Ho hum....I guess I need to get an AAD ASAP. I'm at jump 50 and right about now people say stuff gets dangerous. I'll check out th eclassifieds. Or maybe buy new...Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antibac 0 #6 August 24, 2011 You can actually choose? In my country you have to have AAD to be able to jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLIDEANGLE 1 #7 August 24, 2011 In USA, the only jumps which require an AAD by LAW are tandems. The USPA basic requirements specify that all students must use an AAD. That is not a legal requirement.The choices we make have consequences, for us & for others! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hcsvader 1 #8 August 24, 2011 Best argument for spending the money on an AAD was when someone said "I would be really pissed if I went in and still had $1400 in the bank"Have you seen my pants? it"s a rough life, Livin' the dream >:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brnnncrzy77 0 #9 August 24, 2011 I noticed a guy at my DZ that jumps without a helmet that doesn't use an AAD. Doesn't seem like a smart thing to do if you ask me. u werent flying, u were falling with style Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #10 August 24, 2011 Quote "I would be really pissed if I went in and still had $1400 in the bank" Well off to buy a first hand AAD and a secon hand flight suit with booties Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hcsvader 1 #11 August 24, 2011 Quote Quote "I would be really pissed if I went in and still had $1400 in the bank" Well off to buy a first hand AAD and a secon hand flight suit with booties Glad you agree, I thought it was a pretty good way of looking at it. Hell, you might as well put it on your credit card, that way if you get killed in a canopy collision or doing a low turn you still win... kind of Have you seen my pants? it"s a rough life, Livin' the dream >:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morrison79 0 #12 August 24, 2011 Buy a used AAD and a suit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #13 August 24, 2011 Quote Glad you agree, I thought it was a pretty good way of looking at it. Hell, you might as well put it on your credit card, that way if you get killed in a canopy collision or doing a low turn you still win... kind of OK that there is smart! I am looking as used and well..they are $1,100 a pop. And you can't put it on credit. Can't even seem to find a second hand suit either! WTF gives! All you freaking free flyers!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #14 August 24, 2011 Considering that a whole LOT, read almost all if a frap hat isn't a helmet, of skydivers did that prior to 1993, well maybe it's not so bad. In those days skydivers were killed in free fall, not under an open and functioning canopy.Is it the best choice today? Maybe not but it's a valid choice if DZ and local laws allow. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #16 August 24, 2011 Quote Best argument for spending the money on an AAD was when someone said "I would be really pissed if I went in and still had $1400 in the bank" When I got an AAD in the 90's and my DZO asked why, that's what I said except it was $1200 then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #17 August 24, 2011 Quote On the whole they are more likely to save your life than to cause you a problem. How confident are you of your ability to remain conscious and complete your EPs? The bold face says it all. No one has a crystal ball in this sport. I'm very confident in my abilities to do EP's. I'm pretty sure I won't get knocked out on most loads. But I still use an AAD.Besides, we're all confident in our abilities, maybe more so than we should be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #18 August 24, 2011 i think YOU really really NEED oneYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #19 August 25, 2011 Get an AAD. Then don't make dumb jumps because you have one."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VTmotoMike08 0 #20 August 25, 2011 Get an AAD. If it's a cypress, there is an incredible used market for the things and you can sell it for more than half the value when it has about half the life yet. I recently sold an expert cypres with 22 months left on it for $475! (cypres value calculator said is was worth around $320 if I remember correctly). I had several offers at that price, probably could have gotten more. So yes, the used AAD market is extremely competitive. Mine sold overnight on the classifieds here. If someone is foolish enough to sell you a cypres at the rate shown on the value calculator, buy it up with no questions asked and resell that thing for a profit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danornan 79 #21 August 25, 2011 Question: If you really really needed an AAD and could make the decision as to when to buy it, what would you pay for it? Answer: You would give everything you have and go out and borrow more! Well, you can't buy it right before you need it so this is about as close as it will probably get..... and you don't have to borrow more.Dano Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #22 August 25, 2011 OK Ok ok....I got one! Darn it guys! I wanted to be "bad ass" Well...I guess the suit will have to wait....why are all you freaking guys skinny or short or worse...all of you freaking free fly! A brother can't find a nice second had Bev suit!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #23 August 25, 2011 Quote OK Ok ok....I got one! Darn it guys! I wanted to be "bad ass" Well...I guess the suit will have to wait....why are all you freaking guys skinny or short or worse...all of you freaking free fly! A brother can't find a nice second had Bev suit! I'm 5' 10", 175 lbs and only belly fly. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #24 August 26, 2011 Quote Well...I guess the suit will have to wait....why are all you freaking guys skinny or short or worse...all of you freaking free fly! A brother can't find a nice second had Bev suit! I'm sure there's a Hot Bod suit out there to fit you.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotalus01 0 #25 August 26, 2011 There are lots of good suits out there, you shouldn't limit yourself to just a Bev suit... As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
