whatever 0 #1 November 19, 2003 Hey there. I' sure someone out there has modified their Thomas Sports Teardrop Superfly for wingsuit use. Would you please share some info and pics if you have? And any comments on how it's worked for you. I'm specifically interested in knowing if someone has fitted dynamic corners and then there's the question of Pilot Chute size and construction. I'd like to know TSE's views on these mods if anyone who has discussed it with them care to comment. thanks Sam edited for spelling - doh! soon to be gone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #2 November 19, 2003 Hi Sam, A while back I spoke to Chris Thomas (of TSE) about opening the corners on my SF. As far as I remember he implied that it's not something he's done before but he'd be happy to do it. About a week ago I got Robert Jones (of Morpheus) to have a look. He wasn't too keen to do it because of the way the corners are stitched. He basically said that if the corners are stitched in the same way as a Javelin then you can do it but if they're different then it's not going to work as well. I'd need to have a look at a Javelin to see how they're different, is it because Javelin corners wrap around the bottom of the container a little where SF corners don't? GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #3 November 19, 2003 Jav corners do not wrap around the bottom of the rig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatever 0 #4 November 19, 2003 Gus Thanks for the info. I'm pretty sure it is the way the Javelin's side flaps wrap around the bottom flap, but the Teardrop doesn't. The Wings' sideflaps wrap around as well and the Gargoyle's does too, but only very slightly. I believe this supports and locates the bottom flap when closed, giving rise to Robert Jones' comments. I can see the logic in this and totally agree with it, but then, I can so no reason why the sideflaps of the Teardrop couldn't be modified to wrap around the bottom flap a little too.... it just requires more work Chute Shop S.A.'s Vortex II containers have the wrap around corners too and they seem to have started out as Javelin copies and evolved into featuring a ver Wings'like look/design as far as the side and bottom flaps go. I believe they offer the some form of open or dynamic corners for wingsuit flying too. I would even want to go so far as to incorporate the bridle cover into the sideflap 'extensions', like I've seen on some containers, as the channel that the Teardrop has stitched onto the bottom flap isn't that easy to keep nice and neat, but then, maybe that's just a function of me having fairly soft material on my Teardrop. soon to be gone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #5 November 19, 2003 QuoteJav corners do not wrap around the bottom of the rig. Hmm, I'll try to have a look at one to see what the difference is then. GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gus 1 #6 November 19, 2003 Quote...sideflaps wrap around as well and the Gargoyle's does too, but only very slightly. Do you think that slight overlap (see attached pic from the Morpheus website) is the deciding factor? Quoteas the channel that the Teardrop has stitched onto the bottom flap isn't that easy to keep nice and neat, but then, maybe that's just a function of me having fairly soft material on my Teardrop. Alien Skin SF? I put my thumb on the channel just before it goes under the right flap and push it up and under the flap to keep it taught, seems to help keep it neat and tight. Edited to add attachment. GusOutpatientsOnline.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatever 0 #7 November 19, 2003 QuoteJav corners do not wrap around the bottom of the rig. after looking at the pic of the Javelin with dynamic corners in Gear & Rigging, I can see that. It does look like there is some sort of angled edge there though, maybe that's just the way binding tape is attached, but it looks like there is something that tends to angle the 'dynamic corner inserts' (yellow bits on that picture) inwards nad that that would also tend to do so with the bottom flap when closed?? could you eloborate on the differences in the way the corners are stitched in the Javelin and the Teardrop? thanks soon to be gone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatever 0 #8 November 19, 2003 Quote Do you think that slight overlap (see attached pic from the Morpheus website) is the deciding factor? that's what I think, but I could be totally wrong... *** Alien Skin SF? I put my thumb on the channel just before it goes under the right flap and push it up and under the flap to keep it taught, seems to help keep it neat and tight. *** Alien Skin SF, close.... went to Bridlington to give them my canopies and see what's available (what the hell, it's only a nightmarish 6 and a 1/2 hour from London in the traffic I had), saw the Chameleon fabric and that was it for me! I'm prety sure it's softer than the Alien Skin... Thanks for the tip, but I have been following about the same procedure with my container for a while now. cheers soon to be gone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
