SimonM 0 #1 August 26, 2004 Hi All, Does anybody know how the PF suits are coming along ? Pricing, performace and release ? Cheers, Simon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #2 August 26, 2004 Eager Beaver! You done with your S3? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimonM 0 #3 August 26, 2004 Quote Eager Beaver! You done with your S3? Not even close, but a man can never have too many toys. Simon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #4 August 26, 2004 QuoteHi All, Does anybody know how the PF suits are coming along ? Pricing, performace and release ? Cheers, Simon The website says that it will be available early September. No pricing info on there but it should be safe to assume..early September as well. Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pringles 0 #5 August 26, 2004 They must have put up the priceing since your post. Here you go. http://www.phoenix-fly.com/pricelist.htm Also you will be able to order from Morpheus Tech as they will be the dealer here in the states. Here is their price list. http://baserigs.com/pricelist.html Enjoy Matt Davies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TALONSKY 0 #6 August 26, 2004 I believe he is talking about their wingsuit which is not completely ready for production release yet. Which is why they do not have a price listed yet for the wingsuit. Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #7 August 26, 2004 I asked recently and heard that it's pushed to October due to the number of orders of the pants and jacket (can't wait to get mine). October's just around the corner."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie109 0 #8 August 26, 2004 Quote Does anybody know how the PF suits are coming along ? Pricing, performance and release ? I happened to ask Robi this question yesterday The Phoenix Fly Wingsuit will be unveiled to the public on Saturday 16th Oct at Bridge Day 2004. It will be possible to order suits at Bridge day and online shortly afterwards. The retail price is still not fixed. As for performance..... I only did one jump on the PF ws prototype in Norway but I felt the difference right away. On that first jump I out performed my S3. More forward speed, lower vertical speed and better glide. Good flyers will be able to reach 3:1 glide ratio!! Long flights, J (I still have a lot left in my S3 also... but the colours are so 80s.... ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimonM 0 #9 August 27, 2004 Quote As for performance..... I only did one jump on the PF ws prototype in Norway but I felt the difference right away. On that first jump I out performed my S3. More forward speed, lower vertical speed and better glide. Good flyers will be able to reach 3:1 glide ratio!! Damn, that sounds good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinfishman 0 #10 August 27, 2004 Very curious to get more details on the suit, from someone who's actually flown one! Is the body position any different from the S3? Is the arm pressure in max flight comparable to the S3? ( or lighter, heavier ) Is the wing profile such that it requires use of a suit mounted pc pouch? Does anyone have a more detailed description of the suit, features etc? thanks in advance for any info! Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie109 0 #11 August 27, 2004 From my limited experience of the prototype: Quote Is the body position any different from the S3? Flying position is similar to the S3 but the arm and leg wing area is increased so your arm and leg position is wider. Quote Is the arm pressure in max flight comparable to the S3? ( or lighter, heavier ) Arm pressure was comparable to S3. The increased forward speed is immediately noticeable and the suit also feels more sensitive than the S3. Quote Is the wing profile such that it requires use of a suit mounted pc pouch? The wings are bigger but I think you'll still be able to get the BOC no problems. I always jump the leg pouch now - didn't like the look of it at first but after trying it I came to love it. No more wingsuit BOC for me, pouch works great for exits from 1100' to 30000'. With the pouch I find I can extract the PC quicker whilst helping to maintain body symmetry and therefore improving canopy openings/ heading performance. At first I was concerned about having 2 deployment systems but now it is 2nd nature to switch between freefall-BOC mode / wingsuit-pouch mode. Quote Does anyone have a more detailed description of the suit, features etc? Robi did explain the suit features, the ones i remember: -New suit material and special low friction leading edge material -Re-designed arm and leg wings, substantially increased wing area. -New wing profiles -New arm wing construction method -Mylar wing inserts -... other important stuff that i've forgotten I'm sure Robi will publish full details soon... Long flights, J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #12 August 28, 2004 My guess is it will look exactly like this if not similar. Jari has said that the mylar inserts do make the pull a bit more tricky as the cells don't want to collapse completely."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robibird 3 #13 August 29, 2004 hi, f.y.i. ...once your wings are pressurized with air, the air stays there regardless of mylar supported ribs. The pull might be more difficult on this FIRST prototype (what you offer on the pictures) but only because of the bigger wings. Robert Pecnik robert@phoenix-fly.com www.phoenix-fly.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
