SkymonkeyONE 4 #26 September 10, 2004 You are in luck. There are quite a few S3's in the BirdMan demo inventory right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #27 September 10, 2004 QuoteYou are in luck. There are quite a few S3's in the BirdMan demo inventory right now. Thats partialy correct. Many if not all of them have recently been sold. But don't worry more are being made"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBCmac 0 #28 September 10, 2004 Ok… This is just my opinion, especially since I do not claim to be a skygod by any means… I flew a classic (a few times) before I purchased an S-3… I specifically got into skydive wing suit flying for Base jumping. So with that said, I chose to go with the S-3 for its capability range. With finally achieving my goal and doing several BASE wing suit flights, I have confirmed that I can jump objects with my S-3 that I would never dare jump with my Classic. So in my opinion, my purchase was far from a vanity purchase, it was a logical and functional purchase… Granted, I understand the direction of this argument… But I have to say, who care’s about who buys what??? If they are safe and at least follow DZ rules about flying wing suits, then who cares what someone buys… If it’s a vanity purchase, the only person who suffers is the one who purchased the suit. I mean, when is something considered a vanity purchase and when is it not? Do we consider a new cool looking jump suit a vanity purchase if someone is new at the DZ or if they don’t jump as much as we do??? So my whole point is… Are we at the DZ to skydive or are we at the DZ to judge people??? Again, I’m not talking about people that make purchases outside their skill level, because that’s an entirely different ball game… I’m talking about just because someone can’t fly a suit as well as it was meant to be flown, who cares??? Eventually one of two things (three if they are not safe) come from a vanity purchase… That person eventually becomes good and adds experience to the flock or they get frustrated and sell it to one us who wants a relatively new suit at a relatively cheap price :)… Again, in my opinion we shouldn’t care as long as it’s not creating a safety issue… Just my opinion :)… SBCmac (Michael) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #29 September 11, 2004 QuoteSo my whole point is… Are we at the DZ to skydive or are we at the DZ to judge people??? No, if that's what you think this topic is about you are mistaken. It has nothing to do with that. QuoteDo we consider a new cool looking jump suit a vanity purchase If you're buying the top of the line of anything just to have the top of the line then it becomes a vanity purchase. Quotein my opinion we shouldn’t care as long as it’s not creating a safety issue… In this case it can become a safety issue. Deuce's own statement is testament to that and he had the benefit of having several flights under his belt. The whole point of this topic is to make it clear that not only will your pocket book and performance possible be worse off, you may also put yourself at risk just for the sake of having the top of the line model."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #30 September 11, 2004 Yo, yo, yo, check this out. Jumping an SF3 without a lot of wingsuit jumps is like jumping in a very deep lake with cliffs on all sides when you are pretty sure you can swim. You will find out whether you can swim or not, pretty quick. I nearly drowned. Search the site for my first SF3 flight. It's pretty much a choice of swim or die, when you over-amp your suit choice. Heck, Bobbie the Aussie just crashed the tail of a PAC 750 on his new SF3. People, it's skydiving. It kills the stupid and the brave. I've been blessed with jumping with some of the best skyfliers that there are. But it's dangerous. It's skydiving in a straightjacket. I've chopped in my suit, that with a Spectre. Keep it exciting, but keep it sorta safe. Deal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon 0 #31 September 11, 2004 I got a lot out of these posts and the PMs. You guys are very helpful. I think Im going to get excited about skydiving again (after nationals anyway) thanks ramon"Revolution is an abrupt change in the form of misgovernment.", Ambrose Bierce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #32 September 11, 2004 QuoteI've chopped in my suit, that with a Spectre. I chopped in my GTI with Spectre. www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #33 September 11, 2004 Yeah, I don't say that as bragadocious. I'm a wuss when it comes to swooping. I swoop the shit out of my Spectre loaded at (me naked at 210 plus my gear on a 150) I get a great swoop on my 7 cell. Mad John The Bomber does too. Ease your way up. Hopefully you are at a dropzone where you can borrow MadJohn's GTi for a dozen jumps, then my SF3. Talk to Iwan. He's done that. Iwan? What do you think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #34 September 11, 2004 Quote Ease your way up. Hopefully you are at a dropzone where you can borrow MadJohn's GTi for a dozen jumps, then my SF3. Talk to Iwan. He's done that. Iwan? What do you think? Jep, and I am very grateful that I did have the opportunity to borrow yours. The S3 is a different kind of animal, the tail is huge compared to the Classic I I was flying for a while. It started kicking me around, until I relaxed. Be careful, I took a slightly different approach to what others did I think, I am a puss when it comes to new stuff, so I take it easy.. that's probably what prevented me from having a very scary experience with the suit, like JP had. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BGill 0 #35 September 11, 2004 Quote Heck, Bobbie the Aussie just crashed the tail of a PAC 750 on his new SF3. hey! first, its Bobby not Bobbie. second, i'm an American in Aussieland just messin with ya, no worries! third, im drunk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasmin 0 #36 September 12, 2004 QuoteQuote Heck, Bobbie the Aussie just crashed the tail of a PAC 750 on his new SF3. hey! first, its Bobby not Bobbie. second, i'm an American in Aussieland just messin with ya, no worries! third, im drunk Damn Americans!!! You come to visit, we drive you to our dz's, we drive you to boogies interstate and what do we get for our troubles??! You try and trash our reputation as mad aussies and you try to trash our brand new aeroplane!!!! But we're more than happy to drink your beer! xj "I wouldn't recommend picking a fight with the earth...but then I wouldn't recommend picking a fight with a car either, and that's having tried both." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #37 September 12, 2004 QuoteQuote Heck, Bobbie the Aussie just crashed the tail of a PAC 750 on his new SF3. hey! first, its Bobby not Bobbie. second, i'm an American in Aussieland just messin with ya, no worries! third, im drunk Bobby, I like that even better. The friggen Aussies tried to kill you with that Colonist NZ fighter plane, the bastards! Dude, next time make sure you are well below and clear of the aircraft before opening the suit. Cool video, though. Any death-defying video where all we lose is paint and cloth is cool. Very cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BGill 0 #38 September 12, 2004 QuoteDude, next time make sure you are well below and clear of the aircraft before opening the suit. Haha, you should've seen me on the 5 jumps after the strike. I kept my wings closed for like 3 or 4 seconds after exit just to be extra careful QuoteAny death-defying video where all we lose is paint and cloth is cool. There was no paint lost in the strike. *No airplanes were harmed in the making of this video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
