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what do all you flockers/ freeflyers do for a butt bungee system? i found it a pain to have to keep tying and untying the bungee cord on my leg straps. my wonderful rigger winkler quickly solved my problem by attaching 2 metal links on each leg strap and a tube stow to connect them. i can easily unscrew one of the links to convert.
what do you all do?

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Haven't used one since starting WS. BTW suits like the Crossbow, S-fly, Matter, sugerglider allow you to keep the butt bungie in place.

Butt, you could always french link the butt bungie to just in case you jump with a FF coach that insist you use one, I can think of a few that do.

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I jump a rig(s) that fit properly.;)



Ditto.

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I don't subscribe to that logic anymore since a properly tightened legstrap on my properly-fitting rig slipped halfway to my knee in a weird sitfly maneuver.
It could be the fact that I can bend much more than normal people (and not only in the usual places), but the bungee is on my butt to stay.
For wingsuit flying I think I'll add some sort of a low-profile connector to it, although I suppose french links are one way to do it as well.

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Haven't used one since starting WS. BTW suits like the Crossbow, S-fly, Matter, sugerglider allow you to keep the butt bungie in place.


don't use one anymore either...

And NO, at least the S-FLY does NOT allow you to keep it. You can put it back on once the rig is on the suit, but there is no use...

Almost certain that the other suits don't allow it either.
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I jump a rig(s) that fit properly.;)



Ditto.

t


I don't subscribe to that logic anymore since a properly tightened legstrap on my properly-fitting rig slipped halfway to my knee in a weird sitfly maneuver.
It could be the fact that I can bend much more than normal people (and not only in the usual places), but the bungee is on my butt to stay.
For wingsuit flying I think I'll add some sort of a low-profile connector to it, although I suppose french links are one way to do it as well.



thank you! my rig was custom made for me and i dont have stainless steel hardware. i dont even know if the leg straps slide when in a sit because it was recommended by many people to install a butt bungee for freeflying. i have never jumped my rig bungeeless.

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I don't subscribe to that logic anymore since a properly tightened legstrap on my properly-fitting rig slipped



Do you have stainless steel hardware?

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Yes, but a loosened leg strap would have meant an interesting opening as well.
Fact is, my rig fits perfectly, but on the ground it is possible to move the leg straps around a bit if I bend just right, even though they're properly tightened. Even though it's probably very unlikely to ever happen in freefall again, I don't want to take chances.

BTW, put your rig on and try it. I'm sure it can be done on most custom-fitted harnesses, it's just that people usually don't bend that way.

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Almost certain that the other suits don't allow it either.



The Matter will, it "loads" from the top (the zippers open from the neck down, rather than from the botom otf the wing up.)
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I have tried it - and in 400 dives, it hasn't budged an inch. I have no articulation on my harness. If I squat and physically try and tug it towards my knee I can do it - but that hasn't happened in freefall.

The bungy thing may prevent a single legstrap from moving, but with legs fairly close together on a biggish fitting rig - it only ensures they both move.
It's a solution which doesn't work to a problem that shouldn't exist. Part of the problem is fit - part articulation - part stainless steel.

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I got rid of my original elastic butt strap - reconnecting it each time was taking about 10 minutes as it was never designed to be undone. I have a made-to-measure rig with hip rings and it is necessary when sit flying.

I got hold of three of the velcroed loops that are used to hold the power lead of laptop power supplies. One round each leg strap and one to hold them together.

Very simple, total cost £0.00 (even at the current exchange rate that's still $0.00) and it works.


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Almost certain that the other suits don't allow it either.



The Matter will, it "loads" from the top (the zippers open from the neck down, rather than from the botom otf the wing up.)


thanks for the info. Any knowledge about the other "Crossbow derivatives" like the Sugarglider ???

Edited to add : do you have a pic available to show how you "load" teh Matter suit ?? Still can't imagine how it would work with a bungee. Would you have to pull the back between the legstraps ??
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Edited to add : do you have a pic available to show how you "load" teh Matter suit ?? Still can't imagine how it would work with a bungee. Would you have to pull the back between the legstraps ??



If the zippers go from the harness opening up to the collar then you don't have to remove the butt bungee. If the zippers go down to the wings trailing edge like the latest version of the S-fly then it must be removed for flight.

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