medusa 0 #1 January 12, 2005 I will like to know the different speeds you can achieved with the different brand and models of wing suits " sfly, acces, vampire, bird man classic 1 - 2, S3 ........" also your weight, high, experience. and off course your best data: avg speed, first 15 seconds, second 15 seconds ......... and the instrument you used protrack, neptune 2, Gps....Medusa Get Killed or Die Trying! Patent pending ATFK15456 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medusa 0 #2 January 12, 2005 tipe of suit: Bird man Classic 1 weight: 140 pounds height: 6'1 wing suit expirience: 10 jumps first 15 second: 62 m/ph second 15 second: 55 m/ph AVG speed: 59 m/ph instrument: protrack ________________________________________________Medusa Get Killed or Die Trying! Patent pending ATFK15456 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SimonM 0 #3 January 12, 2005 weight: 83 kg (183lb) height 5'9 clasic 2 experience: wingsuit jumps 0-30 average spd (SAS): 70mph ground speed: slow (measured visually) was not improving S-Fly experience: wingsuit jumps 30-50 average spd (SAS): 60mph ground speed: medium (measured visually) was not improving S3 experience: wingsuit jumps 50-80 average spd (SAS): 50mph ground speed: fast (gps speed +-100 kph) continuing to improve on every jump, especially glide ratio and distance covered Best advice I can give is dont get too hung up on the numbers, enjoy the flights and the numbers should come. For a long while I was too focused on slowing down my descent rate and completely forgot about glide ratio/forward speed. Simon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lego 0 #4 January 12, 2005 Quote Best advice I can give is dont get too hung up on the numbers, enjoy the flights and the numbers should come. Yes! The most important thing is to have fun Skyflyer experience: 20+ jumps avg: 80km/h instrument: pro-track ground speed: improving with each jump. When I was flying along a highway I noticed that I am flying a lot faster than the cars are driving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greybeard 0 #5 January 12, 2005 Talk with Vectorboy and The111. They have both done lots of testing with different apperatus and I think, decided that the 'FUN' factor outwieghs the technical 'trophy hunt'. Have fun! Granted searching for technical data is fun also! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medusa 0 #6 January 12, 2005 I will like some of the people that jumps other suits such as S-fly, acces, vampire etc...... just to see the different performanceMedusa Get Killed or Die Trying! Patent pending ATFK15456 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #7 January 12, 2005 I held 42mph in my S3 last weekend for an entire minute... but not for the whole jump! :) I think slower is possible but I was not trying to take the suit near stall, just a good flying speed.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #8 January 12, 2005 I have 207 wingsuit jumps(6'2", 200-205 lbs out the door). I may have been able to get better performance out of the classic had I known some of the things I know now. Matter 2 (one jump) : 67 mph avg(pilot error). Classic-II(About 70 jumps) : Best average 54 mph. GTI(about 50 jumps) : Best average 46 mph S3(About 60 jumps) : Best average 38 mph( this jump was at sea level) S-Fly(25 or so total, about 10 or so solos for gathering numbers) : Best Average 50 mph Forgot to add: If you keep going for time/GPS distance etc. and neglect jumping with others(or cannot jump with others because you are the only WS pilot at your DZ) you will have trouble on flocking jumps. Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #9 January 12, 2005 QuoteForgot to add: If you keep going for time/GPS distance etc. and neglect jumping with others(or cannot jump with others because you are the only WS pilot at your DZ) you will have trouble on flocking jumps. The funny thing is that flocking has helped me understand the suit and my body better, and now when I max out I feel more solid.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinfishman 0 #10 January 12, 2005 6'3" 175 lbs. 267 ws jumps (mostly Gti, a few S3) Just the descent rate doesn't mean much to me, glide ratio is my only measure of performance. You also need to know what the winds aloft were when taking into consideration glide and forward speed. I've had a glide ratio of 2.8 in my Gti (with a 45 mph tail wind, which made my ground speed around 130mph from GPS!) No wind glide ratio on the Gti is at 1.8- 85 mph fwd avg. by GPS, fall rate 47 mph avg. by protrack. Fall rate on Gti has been down to 40 avg for the entire flight, but sacrificed glide... not much fun. JIM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #11 January 13, 2005 Jim, Whenever I see your posts, I feel like I did not learn how to fly the GTI better. You are flying in a straightline when you are getting these GRs right? Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinfishman 0 #12 January 13, 2005 Hey, Yes, when I fly just for the most glide, I take the spot out 3.5 - 4 miles or more depending on the altitude and winds aloft. I just turn around right away and fly a straight line back to the DZ. **SAFETY note to anyone learning...take the spot out gradually and ONLY fly down the line of flight when safety allows it and the airspace is clear of other jumpers, tandems, high flying flocks of geese, etc.** The DZ here also has two landing areas, the airport and a student field 2.3 miles from the airport, so there's some flexibility when it comes to the spots. Flying a straight line has really helped to fine tune glide, but I have learned to fly box patterns without losing the glide by turning with the legs and making the turn gradual to avoid losing the forward speed. It's more like a semi-circle than a box. I always focus on the forward speed and try to eliminate drag from airflow straight ahead, not increase drag from airflow below. I sweep back the hands, keep the toes slightly in, head down, eyes up, and just think "more forward speed" Straight body from head to toe, adjusting the angle of attack. At first it was surprising that my fall rate was low, without even thinking about it. Arm pressure is significantly less when focusing on forward speed and turning that speed to lift to keep the fall rate down. Just took lotsa practice, as will getting the good numbers with the V1. here's a pic of my body position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #13 January 13, 2005 That's a really nice picture. Nice, efficient body position as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #14 January 13, 2005 How was that pic taken? Under Canopy or from a plane? sweet pic by the way Ground looks kindof flooded Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinfishman 0 #15 January 13, 2005 That was taken under canopy by one of our DZ photographers, Kelly Craig (super cool guy) right after I flew past him. The river was flooded that weekend, you can see a couple of houses at the top that are completely surrounded by water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #16 January 13, 2005 QuoteGround looks kindof flooded It is! Ask him how much RAIN they get! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #18 January 13, 2005 Quotehow much Check out the average precipitation here. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinfishman 0 #19 January 13, 2005 That about sums it up, now I'm depressed, thanks Ed! We do a lot of hop 'n pops at the ceiliing. Or in my case: FLAP 'N POPS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot1 0 #20 January 13, 2005 QuoteThat about sums it up, now I'm depressed, thanks Ed! We do a lot of hop 'n pops at the ceiliing. Or in my case: FLAP 'N POPS Sound like a good reason to get your "wingsuit flyin' ass" down here (where it rains LESS) to do some flocking huh? Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #21 January 13, 2005 That looks low. How high were you in that picture? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyinfishman 0 #22 January 13, 2005 I definitely want to come down there this year, $15 to 13K seven days a week, I miss being down there. It's probably impossible to remember all of your students, but you were my AFF instructor back in '95 at Yolo. Small world. Those were the good old days, it would be super cool to do some flocks with you! JIM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyinfishman 0 #23 January 13, 2005 around 2500 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot1 0 #24 January 13, 2005 QuoteIt's probably impossible to remember all of your students, but you were my AFF instructor back in '95 at Yolo. Really, No shit? You right, it's very hard to remember all my students, since there are so many. I am usually good at remembering faces tho. More reason to fly with me again Bro! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites medusa 0 #25 January 13, 2005 I will really like to see some numbers of the V1 any body flying a V1 how can post some data for us??Medusa Get Killed or Die Trying! Patent pending ATFK15456 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
bodypilot1 0 #20 January 13, 2005 QuoteThat about sums it up, now I'm depressed, thanks Ed! We do a lot of hop 'n pops at the ceiliing. Or in my case: FLAP 'N POPS Sound like a good reason to get your "wingsuit flyin' ass" down here (where it rains LESS) to do some flocking huh? Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #21 January 13, 2005 That looks low. How high were you in that picture? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinfishman 0 #22 January 13, 2005 I definitely want to come down there this year, $15 to 13K seven days a week, I miss being down there. It's probably impossible to remember all of your students, but you were my AFF instructor back in '95 at Yolo. Small world. Those were the good old days, it would be super cool to do some flocks with you! JIM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinfishman 0 #23 January 13, 2005 around 2500 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #24 January 13, 2005 QuoteIt's probably impossible to remember all of your students, but you were my AFF instructor back in '95 at Yolo. Really, No shit? You right, it's very hard to remember all my students, since there are so many. I am usually good at remembering faces tho. More reason to fly with me again Bro! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medusa 0 #25 January 13, 2005 I will really like to see some numbers of the V1 any body flying a V1 how can post some data for us??Medusa Get Killed or Die Trying! Patent pending ATFK15456 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
