namdrib 0 #1 January 24, 2005 I would like some input from someone that has mucho experience with both, the Skyflyer1 and V-1 Wingsuit. I am thinking of venturing into the Vampire world and would like to know the major differences, if any, between the two wingsuits. Pro's/Con's of both too if you don't mind. Thanks.Unknowing attempting to take out all 4 wheeled vehicles remotely close to the landing area! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #2 January 24, 2005 I know of only two people who have ever jumped a V1, Steve. That's Robi and "UncleCharlie" on here. I have no idea what UncleCharlie's actual wingsuit numbers are, but Robi certainly has the most jumps on his own suit and an aweful lot of jumps on BirdMan S3's and S4 prototypes since that's who he used to design for. Anyone else making comments to this thread are speculating at best. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 January 25, 2005 QuoteAnyone else making comments to this thread are speculating at best. I am going to speculate that you're correct, sir.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie109 0 #4 January 25, 2005 Quote I would like to know the major differences, if any, between the two wingsuits. Pro's/Con's of both too if you don't mind. Hi Steve, I think my post from a while back "V-1 Flight Review" may answer some of your questions: copy & paste: ------------------------------------------------------------ I flew the Vampire V-1 this weekend. I was totally blown away. The suit is simply awesome. The first thing I said to Robert when I landed was "When will mine be ready?!" Whilst attaching the suit to my rig I began to notice all the great new design features that Robert has incorporated. Not just the performance increasing stuff but also the attention to detail that makes the suit more comfortable to wear and use. For example: - booties are made from high grade leather (same stuff they use for Porsche seats!), so will be long lasting and provide better grip - cut away handles are protected by a small cover with a stiffener inside, keeping the handle in place and making stowing the leg wing after deployment much easier - rear inside edge of the booties has this cool grippy rubber cuff material that keeps the bootie in place. - the adjustable swoop cord is sweet - etc As you would expect the suit is extremely well made using durable high grade materials. I put the suit on and immediately noted the wider leg stance. The wing tip grippers are simply great, the wrist position feels so natural (not uncomfortable like the S3). The inside of the arm wing is padded so is super comfortable. On the first flight my exit was not very good but I just focused on maximising my horizontal speed and trying to get the suit flying towards max glide to see what it could do. I chipped a little as I got used to the new body position. The arm wing grippers are surprisingly sensitive, giving you a lot of control over the pitch angle - which feels awesome. After about 20 seconds I got sorted and started flying smooth and fast. The suit flies at quite a low pitch angle and like a missile! Even though it was my first flight I flew further and opened higher than I have ever done with my S3! The glide performance coming from both increased horizontal and reduced vertical speed. On the second flight we made a 2 way, I didn't see Robert after the exit and figured he was way higher and ahead of me, I carried on playing with the my body position, concentrating on feeling the lift and air flow over the suit. Towards the end of the flight I noticed something out of the corner of my eye, it was Robert 5m on my right with a huge smile on his face. He tweaked his position and immediately accelerated up and away from me Arm pressure - not an issue, about the same as S3 but feels easier due to comfortable wrist & gripper position. The leg wing pressure felt slightly more than S3 but not by a great deal. I have some video of the suit in action that I will post on (edit: see http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1391187;search_string=v-1%20in%20action;#1391187 ------------------------------------------- What else would you like to know? Long flights, J Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #5 January 25, 2005 Hi James What is the basis for your comparison? Ie how many S3 and V1 flights do you have? If you can break that down further between plane and BASE that would be cool. Thanks! Will PS I understand that James isn't sponsored/employed by either Birdman or Phoenix (despite any allegations I've made to the contrary ). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie109 0 #6 January 25, 2005 QuoteWhat is the basis for your comparison? For performance, when I jumped the V-1 from MB in Italy I flew further and opened higher than with my old S3 (now sold ) Some guy from Croatia experienced the same thing QuoteIe how many S3 and V1 flights do you have? I would have to check my log book for accurate numbers, but approx 200 S3 flights split 50/50 plane and fixed. For the V-1 a grande total of 5 all fixed. I plan on doing a bunch of plane jumps in the next couple of weeks (weather permitting). The V-1s are shipping, so soon there will be other people you can pick on Will Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #7 January 25, 2005 As long as you are having a good hair day it doesn't matter what I say. Can't wait for the heliboogie to watch the 'Battle of the Birds'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie109 0 #8 January 25, 2005 QuoteCan't wait for the heliboogie to watch the 'Battle of the Birds'. No handbags or hair pulling allowed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #9 January 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteAnyone else making comments to this thread are speculating at best. I am going to speculate that you're correct, sir. Did you speculate when you ordered this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
