Zeemax 0 #1 March 4, 2005 Ok, i'm probably about to buy a brand spanking new suit. I was going to buy the S3, but then someone mentioned hanging on for the s5?? How far off is it, am i talking rubbish, has this already been covered to death and i'm now just wasting bandwidth?Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #2 March 4, 2005 See that banner in the upper right corner of the screen? There's your answer right there when are you coming back to our side of the Pond? BTW, that web site of yours is absolutely HILARIOUS. You are definately touched"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #3 March 4, 2005 What website? P.S. Macca is a wanker. www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #4 March 4, 2005 QuoteSee that banner in the upper right corner of the screen? There's your answer right there "Soon", as in, you'll get your playstation 3 before you can get an s5 BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #5 March 4, 2005 Quote "Soon", as in, you'll get your playstation 3 before you can get an s5 And your information comes from where?? Keepin' it safe! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #6 March 4, 2005 Quote And your information comes from where?? http://news.gamewinners.com/index.php/news/1965/ ok, so seriously > from the BM website: Birdman Newsletter Jan 2005: " The release dates for the LEGEND, PHI and S.5 BLADE will be announced Winter 2005. "BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iXic 0 #7 March 4, 2005 I'm kind of new in this (WS), so my question might sound stupid... If I understood right, the suit Jari has been testing in the tunnel is not S5??? And if it's not (is it S3?), what will this testing contribute to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedformula 0 #8 March 4, 2005 << I'm kind of new in this (WS), so my question might sound stupidBlush... If I understood right, the suit Jari has been testing in the tunnel is not S5??? And if it's not (is it S3?), what will this testing contribute to?Crazy >>> Gathering data to lay the foundation for the the next gen of WS...as I understood it from previous post. Keeping it real 22x7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #9 March 4, 2005 QuoteIf I understood right, the suit Jari has been testing in the tunnel is not S5??? And if it's not (is it S3?), what will this testing contribute to? Correct me if I'm wrong - but the suits in the tunnel video are S3, Gti and the Phi prototype made by Robert.BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #10 March 4, 2005 Quote Correct me if I'm wrong - but the suits in the tunnel video are S3, Gti and the Phi prototype made by Robert. Curiousity killed the cat! How about asking him yourself @ +358503681338 or just email him at jari@bird-man.com Keepin' it safe! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #11 March 4, 2005 QuoteCuriousity killed the cat! meoww meowww .... urggghhhhh The suits in the tunnel video are the S3, GTi and the Phi prototype made by Robert. I got my confirmation from a reliable source.BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #12 March 5, 2005 QuoteQuoteCuriousity killed the cat! meoww meowww .... urggghhhhh The suits in the tunnel video are the S3, GTi and the Phi prototype made by Robert. I got my confirmation from a reliable source. I think I hear him calling you in the house for dinner? Be safe! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iXic 0 #13 March 5, 2005 Hmmm, now I'm lost...Wanna know why? Not because I'm a stupid chick, but because I'm a manager in one of world's largest computer company (have master degree in one of the thingies BM is showing in the video...) and I'm also big F1 fanatic (Ferrari, Schumacher)...Nor in first or second case EVER IN THE HISTORY an old product has been tested in order to make a new (and for sure not better) one!!! So bodypilot1...sorry, but what you're saying, diserves only one answer - BULLSHIT! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iXic 0 #14 March 5, 2005 Sorry bodypilot1...it was speedformula that wrote what he wrote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #15 March 5, 2005 Directed to all, just replying to Zeemax because he started the thread: Let's not have this degenerate into a "my gear has a bigger thing than yours" thread. You don't see Robi and Jari on here slagging each other off. I think their example is one that the rest of us ought to pay attention to.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iXic 0 #16 March 5, 2005 Tom and others...I didn't want to say anything about "my gear has a bigger thing than yours"...since I don't know Jari or Robert personally and I think all the best about EXISTING PRODUCTS...the only thing I wanted to stress here or as it was put in the first place by Zeemax: where is S5, where is blade???...I'm a chick with some understanding in physics and aerodynamics and will not buy the ad with half naked angie!!??? We're asking this because we would like to try it...fly it, not because we would like to provoce someone! And if someone sees this as provocation, than my doubts are even bigger... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #17 March 5, 2005 It's easy to stand on the sidelines and chuck stones so lets keep one thing in mind here. Other manufacturers suits were tested in the tunnel as well. If you don't have base line data, how can you make something better? To date, the only ones who have put any type of wingsuit in a tunnel have been Adrian N, and the french team that was recently at PIA. I am doubtful if Adrian was able to use any of the data gathered to build a better suit or if that was even his intentions. The french team is studying wingsuit design with Military applications in mind, not neccesarily to build a better wing suit for the public. Regardless of who made what, or who was involved at the time, we have better suits today because people like Leo Valentin, Patrick DeGayardon, Jari and Robert among others decided to push the envelope and make it better. In the end, WE benefit from their work. To argue over who did this or who did that is fruitless. There are designers at Ford who used to work at Chevy and visa versa but the bottom line is it all goes back to the Model T and those who continued to build on that dream.In the end , it is you the user who's going to benefit from others hard work. Last time I checked more can get done if more than one is involved. So instead of taking a side, stand off to the side and cheer all the competitors on because it's you who will eventually win when all is said and done. I have yet to hear anyone talking smack like what goes on here while on a flock but I have seen many a smile and friends made during and after. Lets not forget why we do this."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spont 0 #18 March 5, 2005 BM newsletter 2 says that they have testing all the possible wingsuits available at various speeds and different angles...and it has given to them very interested and valuable data. I dont think that they want to show their new suits in that video... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
verticalflyer 11 #19 March 5, 2005 Aside from all the arguments flying back and forth, Zeemax, dont take offence but if as your profile says you have 210 jumps why would you want an S3 let alone an S5 you can pick up a GTi or Skyflyer if you must or any other Gti like intermediate suit. Just because its the newest does not mean you will get the most out of it. I know we have seen this argument befpre so dont take it personally but 210 jump is not a lot to be flying the state of art wingsuits that are currently coming out. Translate this into any other domain and you'd be laughed at, ie canopies, I have 210 jumps now should I wait fot the new Z brace etc etc Apologies if your profile number is merely a typo, this sport only interests me because we never stop learning, does not mean we have to skip the basics, and start at the deep end. Wingsuit flight is about fun and expanding our boundaries and the journey is a lot of fun, dont rush it.Cheers FraserDont just talk about it, Do it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #20 March 5, 2005 Quotemeoww meowww .... urggghhhhh The cat is no longer with us, it was overly curious, not loyal and unquestioning like the dog. Ciao Spont! Welcome back! BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #21 March 5, 2005 All products take time. We've got an industry essentially composed of small and one man shops. Remember how eager people were for the V-1, and how it ended up taking a month or so longer than anticipated? If I recall correctly, Robert originally wanted to start selling them at Bridge Day, but they ended up not being available for a little bit longer. It's silly to get up in arms when products are later than expected, because it happens all the time. It's not like anyone in this industry (wingsuits) has bigg budgets and research staffs.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ikenever 1 #22 March 5, 2005 LouDiamond well put. To all who contribute to this forum, Please read his word, even twice if that's what it takes... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #23 March 5, 2005 Well - No one will be interested in this, as it only involves my old, boring S3, but between 5 AFF's today, I did 2 great wingsuit solo's, both playing with the pilot after exit for 25 - 30 seconds and staying quite close now, as we've been dirt diving this for about a month - and then finding the 1st Tandem out and doing flyby's off his left wingtip. Just enough summer cloud around to give the perception of plenty of speed - the glimpse of the Tandem Pax's "Wheee" expression and a few people on the ground's comments like "You looked like a Sidewinder missile tracking that plane! So close for SO long!" Ah well. I guess I'll just have to carry on with this OLD BORING STUFF until the NEW and EXCITING S5 comes along.... Hoooo... Some of you guys really know how to bring yourselves down. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #24 March 5, 2005 Patrick de Gayardon (inventor of the modern day wingsuit) used a tunnel for testing. I wonder what he would make of all the nylon whoring and warring if he were still around. (probably wouldn't care because he'd already be busy inventing the next big thing... ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #25 March 6, 2005 Excellent Tonto. We did 8 wingsuit jumps today the rocked! Finally broke 39mph (on a suit designed by Robert ) after braking off from the group on the bottom end of the skydive. Keepin' it safe! Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
