joephus 0 #126 September 16, 2011 I don't think anyone has suggested that you rely solely on leg kicking. Leg kicking is just a part of the assessing and reassessing of your situation that you were talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC1 0 #127 September 16, 2011 Quote>A leg kick on it's own doesn't mean shit in terms of communication unless >you have something else to back it up with. Like eye contact. I know that there is at least one blind skydiver out there but usually, if someone is looking directly at you then there is a fair chance they've seen you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #128 September 17, 2011 I don’t know what it is you are arguing about but let’s just say you will and drop the matter. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBCOOPER 5 #129 September 17, 2011 QuoteLeg kicks are pretty common at bigways, where many canopies open in tight airspace. Are they briefed?Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobMoore 0 #130 September 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteLeg kicks are pretty common at bigways, where many canopies open in tight airspace. Are they briefed? I've been to a few bigways, have been jumping for more than a few years, and I even spent some time as an AFF instructor. I don't think I have ever heard about this leg kicking thing. I guess people are good at steering away from me."For you see, an airplane is an airplane. A landing area is a landing area. But a dropzone... a dropzone is the people." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBCOOPER 5 #131 September 17, 2011 "West Coast Kik" There, I have named it. Now here on the east coast when someone is near us we flap our elbows which means fly way. So if any of left coasters come our way you have been briefed.Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #132 September 18, 2011 QuoteI know that there is at least one blind skydiver out there but usually, if someone is looking directly at you then there is a fair chance they've seen you. So, do we take it that if someone's head is turned your way you're going to assume that they see you yet you have a problem with a visual verification? You say kicking is not, in and of itself, sufficient and one needs back-up. What back-up would you suggest?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #133 September 18, 2011 Quote...But don't just assume some other random guy knows what you're up to, he may not. Which is what started this thread in the first place. Good piece of educational benefit here. You can elect to use it or not. If you're looking for absolutes in skydiving, you'll have a hard time finding any.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #134 September 18, 2011 QuoteAll leg kicks are doing is providing you with more information about your surroundings. It's a little packet of information that you can add to the overall picture you use to make decisions. It is a half second process of "I see you. You see me. I now have more information about my surroundings than I did before". How anyone can argue that having less information is the way to go is beyond me. Funny how a young jumper gets it and so many more experienced ones don't. Welcome to the world of "it's all about me and screw everybody else. I'm not gonna do anything to help out others because I don't agree with whatever it is."My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #135 September 18, 2011 >but usually, if someone is looking directly at you then there is a fair >chance they've seen you. Agreed. And if you kick and get a kick in reply there is an _excellent_ chance that they've seen you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites