TheJokergs 0 #1 October 10, 2003 what canopies do the military use??? not rounds! i just saw a Mach3 Alpha on http://www.totalcontrol.com.au/ and parachute de france' was selling militaary equipment like their canopies it just made me think, are there any distrinct advantages to having a military canopy?Build a man a fire and he will be warm for a night, set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbla4024 0 #2 October 10, 2003 VTP 100 in Czech republic. In fact they do not use it (it's grounded), but they already paid 10 000$ per complet (unbelievable discount, just imagine, rig for ten thousand). Fido Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #3 October 10, 2003 Try here http://www.paraflite.com/.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wags 0 #4 October 10, 2003 The golden knights demo team uses Flght Concepts Startrac's. ( AKA Sky-Truck.) Blue Skies, Wags Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #5 October 10, 2003 It depends on what type of jumping they are doing. At least in the U.S. 99% of jumps are done with rounds. Then there are the Halo guys. Most manufactures sell something to the Military. The Navy seems pretty fond of the PD Silhouette from the orders we have been taking from them. When I was on the Ft. Lewis Demo team we jumped the Star Trac and Sharp Chutters. Just depended on how early you got to training that day.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chester 0 #6 October 10, 2003 In Canada all military static line jumps are with round and the path finders are flyng something square J-S ---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #7 October 11, 2003 QuoteThe golden knights demo team uses Flght Concepts Startrac's. ( AKA Sky-Truck.) I thought some of them were jumping Sharpchuters, very stable.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wags 0 #8 October 11, 2003 According to dgskydive, some do. When their demo team was here ( Sioux Falls, SD ) this summer, they were all jumping Startracs. Blue Skies, Wags Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #9 October 11, 2003 QuoteAccording to dgskydive, some do. When their demo team was here ( Sioux Falls, SD ) this summer, they were all jumping Startracs. I made a few jumps on one, the 245, and thought it sucked big time. Same sq. ft. as the sharpchuter but different aspect ratio.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #10 October 11, 2003 Just a point of clarification here. The US military uses the MC4 system that can be seen on paraflites web page with the above link. That is what is used for MILITARY HALO/HAHO OPERATIONS. The chutes that the GK, HALO instructors, demo teams and the like are not used for military operations. They are used for sport application only."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #11 October 11, 2003 There are two major distinctions between sport rigs and military freefall rigs: extra rings and extra fabric Military freefall harnesses have extra rings for attaching rucksacks, rifles and snowshoes. Since those RRS add so much extra weight, MFF tend to have much larger canopies in the 340 to 400 square foot range. This blurs the distinction between military freefall and military tandem rigs. Speaking of military tandem rigs, the US military mainly use Vector Tandem rigs because they hold up better to the ridiculous loads (i.e. 500 pounds) suspended weights they like to take to dangerous places. Also, many military tandem rigs are only used with bundles. Sure pushing a 500 pound cylindrical bundle out of a plane may be hard work, but you don't have to worry about it grabbing your hands, or vomiting. And if a bundle demands its money back, you can simply pull the "bundle release handle." Hee! Hee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spectreflyer 0 #12 October 12, 2003 Only one of the Golden Knight's team uses Flight Concepts canopies. There are two different GK teams, Gold and Black. The other team uses PD canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taln1rigr 0 #13 October 14, 2003 QuoteJust a point of clarification here. The US military uses the MC4 system that can be seen on paraflites web page with the above link. That is what is used for MILITARY HALO/HAHO OPERATIONS. Further clarification ... Air Force Special Tactics Units also utilize the MC-5 in addition to the MC-4 for HALO/HAHO operations. These units also jump the T-10B round using the newer universal static line snap hook. Info & pics on universal static line snap hook: http://www.bragg.army.mil/aas/docs/SPECIAL%20EDITION%20MJM%20UPDATE%20USL.doc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefaller76 0 #14 October 18, 2003 Canadian Military freefallers use the CT-6. It's a 370 sq ft ram air manufactured by Irvin industries (you can get the specs on their web site). Similar to the US Army MT-1xx I believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #15 October 18, 2003 QuoteUnits also utilize the MC-5 in addition to the MC-4 True, but the MC-5 is just an MC4 with a D bag and static line assembly and no FF2 or AR2. The container, main and reserve are identical to a MC4. In fact and MC-5 can be de rigged to function like an MC4 with minimal rigger support."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #16 October 18, 2003 Quotemanufactured by Irvin industries (you can get the specs on their web site). Similar to the US Army MT-1xx I believe The US uses the Irvin calculator for determining ff2 settings, otherwise known as a whiz wheel. The MT-1XX is no longer used by the US though."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usmcrigger 0 #17 October 23, 2003 mc-4, mc-5 both 380's 7 cell chutes, essentially the same parachute. the mc-5 can be rigged for static line openings by adding a outer d-bag and rigging a drouge to the main. both parachutes have the exact same canopy for a reserve. this is so that if there is a malfunction there is no need to deviate from the set mission. these two parachutes are currently the mainstay of halo/haho packages used by military special forces. although you will still find some units flying the MT1-xx and MT1-xs, essentially the same parachute but rigged with a smaller 5 cell reserve. if you are interested in purchasing these parachutes you can sometimes find the canopies w/o anything else including the suspension lines at some base DRMO's I will be sure, always SEMPER FI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usmcrigger 0 #18 October 23, 2003 True, but the MC-5 is just an MC4 with a D bag and static line assembly and no FF2 or AR2. Not true the MC-5 which is the rig used by the Marines is fitted with an AR2. I will be sure, always SEMPER FI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #19 October 23, 2003 QuoteNot true the MC-5 which is the rig used by the Marines is fitted with an AR2. Marines must be the only ones using AR2 on it then. As far as I know, all the MT-1xx series have been removed from use with an exception of a few SEAL teams."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #20 October 23, 2003 QuoteCanadian Military freefallers use the CT-6. It's a 370 sq ft ram air y Irvin industries (you can get the specs on their web site). Similar to the US Army MT-1xx I believe. It is a ParaFlite product but the sub the manufacturing out to different companies when the demand is high.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #21 October 25, 2003 Manta 290 in my country Parafoil the military accuracy team maybe the old russian T4 too - as a round one... http://www.airclub.rdsnet.ro/modules/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Parasutism&id=aaq and http://www.airclub.rdsnet.ro/modules/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Parasutism&id=aah ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
