paddyFrenchman 0 #1 August 22, 2005 Hey, Just got to do my first flight at night. All i can say is that it got my adrenaline pumping like it hasn't in a long time... Next time it will have to be a flock ... take it easy, P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trae 1 #2 August 22, 2005 Thanks for putting me right back there .Can't wait to do a flock at night after a couple of solo's on pitch black nights. A full moon flock would be unbelievable. Pick me pick me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #3 August 22, 2005 I've never done a full moon cliff flock, but I will say that full moon cliff flights have some of the best visuals I've ever experienced. I wonder if adding other birds would add or detract from the experience?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #4 August 23, 2005 Did a two way flock last night with Jim M. It was awesome, can't wait to do more.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.g 0 #5 August 23, 2005 How do you stagger the break off of WS flocks on night jumps to avoid canopy collisions during landing? Respect my authoritah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #6 August 23, 2005 I don't consider that at all. What we do is make sure we track far enough away from each other prior to opening and then we keep a keen eye out for each other during our canopy descent. Just like any other night jump, we are marked fore and aft with chemlights and we wear a strobe, generally on top of our helmet. Vertical separation is generally also taken care of by different wingloading. More critical on night wingsuit flights is insuring that you don't get out so far that you can't make it back to the lighted/marked landing area. It's much better to get out short and have to fly in a circle over the top, knowing that you are going to have a 100% chance of landing where you want than to land in the middle of a barely-lit street criss-crossed with powerlines a half mile from the DZ.........Right, Blair???? Right, Kevin???? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trae 1 #7 August 23, 2005 Not having done any flocking at night this is only conjecture....But I'll have a go. For base flocking ..some-one else would know better. For skydiving ..well... I have done multiple night demo's where we staggered the opening heights from 6ooo' down to 2ooo'. this was freefall not wingsuiting.Something similar might be possible here. Where this comes unstuck is if some-one breaks the sequence so take care in who goes where. Lights, lights and more lights. Making sure you and others are visible under canopy can make night jumps much less stressful. I use a strong beam headlamp on top of my helmet (this will light up a landing area if I have to land off for some reason.) I also have a LED footlamp for the flying bit (not so bright) and a colour flasher for use under canopy. The flashers are good for showing up other canopies at a glance. With the idea of not getting too big too fast perhaps a 2way would be good to start with after you've done a few by yourself ...as long as you have some other night jumping experience. Then you could simply have one person dumping at break off with the other giving it another 1000'. This would give you some good separation. With bigger night flocks some form of breakoff in stages could work well keeping the inner close so that some hold is kept on where the bods are. Perhaps the outers getting away first leaving the next in to leave 1000' later fanning out and cranking away...followed by the next ones leaving the leader to dump out last. Upping the heights a bit wouldn't hurt to start with. Only suggestions here and fully recommend doing this only with people who have proved their discipline in the air with you. If you can see the other canopies semi-normal rules apply re direction of circuit and holding in brakes etc. Getting too big a flock too fast ..not a good idea. This is gonna be a lot of fun if it's done safely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0