MikeOne 0 #1 September 27, 2005 A general question. I did 8 jumps on my GTi on Saturday - V chuffed - and was thinking of moving onto a higher performance suit in the near future. I've done about 35 WS jumps in total at the moment but intend to do a lot more before the end of the year. I have 2 problems. The first is deciding which is the best suit to buy. A friend of mine has just bought a V1 which I know is a seriously high performance suit in terms of air time, but what's it like for aerobatics/flocking? Similarly, what are the relative differences between a S3 and a Phi to fly, and between these and a V1? I appreciate that any answers to this question will be subjective but I can live with that! The second problem is that at the moment I am jumping a Wings container with the Wingsuit mods (cutout corners at the base of the container which allow it to fold out flat, and longer bridle) with a Stiletto 135 loaded at about 1.37. I have had no problems with this set up with my GTi, generally getting very smooth openings, most of which are on heading too. To be fair some of the ones on Saturday weren't so good but I think that I may have been getting lazy on deployment which is easily rectified. What I want to know is whether this configuration will still be fine with a higher performance suit, or if there is any reason why this may present problems? Blue ones, Mike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badenhop 0 #2 September 27, 2005 Hello, I learned ws on a GTi, with a Sabre 135 main in a Vector. Line twists now and then, nothing to chop. I now fly S3 and V1 with the same main, and have about the same result. Line twists now and then, nothing to chop, imho. You have to be in control on deployment, or you get twists. There is another thread about that right around here somewhere. I also use 9' bridle with bigger pc's. You can anticipate the spin and counter with a wing or leg. My second rig is a Wings, just put in a Spectre 170. It is also great for all my wingsuits.================================== I've got all I need, Jesus and gravity. Dolly Parton http://www.AveryBadenhop.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #3 September 27, 2005 Quotewhat are the relative differences between a S3 and a Phi to fly I will assume you are asking about performance and not in appearance/design.The S3(S) is a step up in performance and in wing size compared to the PHI. The PHI is an acrobatics suit and has air inlets on the front and back of the wings so that the wings stay inflated no matter the orientation of the pilot. The S3(S) offers more in the way of overall performance and range with a wider and longer tail wing and larger arm wings. The PHI is a very fast suit when flown properly and has no problem staying with the bigger suits however it was designed with acrobatics in mind and does so exceptionally well. Quote....a Stiletto 135 loaded at about 1.37......What I want to know is whether this configuration will still be fine with a higher performance suit, or if there is any reason why this may present problems? A larger wing,regardless of the manufacturer, and a high performance canopy present a different set of challenges. Generally, they should only be combined when the pilot has a sufficient amount of experience with high performance canopies and their specific habits as well as experience flying a high performance suit. Combining the two before having mastered a high performance suit and the deployment is a sure way to go from what would otherwise be simple line twists into possibly a violently spinning mal. It is never just one thing that causes accidents/incidents but a series of small things that when combined make for a bad day. Thats not to say you can't jump a high performance canopy /suit combo. However, those who choose to jump a high performance canopy with a wingsuit (should) also realize the added risks involved and adjust their hard deck(pull altitude) accordingly to give themselves a fighting chance if something does go wrong which it inevitably will if you jump a suit for any period of time. In your case, Stiletto's are known for their habits when in a spin as you are familiar with it I am sure. With 35 WS jumps you may want to go to something more docile for a good 10-20 jumps if you move up to a larger wingsuit until you become proficient in your deployments. Once you have your deployments dialed in then add the Stileto back into the picture and decide if it's a risk you are willing to accept."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeOne 0 #4 September 29, 2005 Thanks dude. That's exactly the information I needed. There's a wingsuit weekend going on in November that I'm hoping to be able to try out some different suits at. I'm also intending to have done a few more jumps on my GTi before then! Based on your response it seems wise to try to borrow some gear before test jumping any other suits. Hopefully that'll enable me to try flying a new suit and stay flying my main as well Blue ones (with white fluffy bits ) Mike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
