vigil ??

[chris74 0]

Hello birds,
Last week end , it was sunny in the french alpians so i did my first flights on my Prodigy , face to the Mont Blanc and above the biggest french mountain lake. Unforgetable ! but i noticed after each flight , my Vigil didn't record my freefall delay as usually or only 17 to 20 seconds per jumps ???? Stanby mode, Buggs or something else ???
Waiting for your answer
Blue skies
Chris
P.S thanks to my PFI J.N Itzstein (adrenalin base ) , Phoenix fly and Lou Diamond for his book .
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[KrisFlyZ 0]

Speculating here...but it could be that it was only recording the few sec prior to deployment. Does anyone know what speeds the vigil reads as 'freefall'?


Edited to add:

best contact Kim Griffin at kim@vigil.aero
DZ.com username: kimgriffin

Kris.

[chris74 0]

Thanks Kris , i 'm gonna to contac kim right now .
Blue skies
Chris

[GeordieSkydiver 0]

Post up what response you get as I'm building a new rig with a Vigil in it.

Lee _______________________________

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[LouDiamond 1]

Hi there Chris. I see you got your book If I understand your question correctly, I think the following will answer your question. From the Vigil web page:

Once the door opens and you leave the plane, the Vigil® will calculate the time left over before reaching the activation altitude (for example: 840 ft in PRO mode), by measuring continuously your falling speed and your altitude. The Vigil® takes in consideration the speed variation during the free fall and recalculates every 1/8 of a second the time left to reach the activation altitude. When you reach the activation altitude (time = 0) and if you are still falling at a speed above 35m/sec, the Vigil® will activate instantaneously the cutter to allow your reserve parachute to deploy. This patented method give a very accurate activation altitude (+/- 60 feet).


You should also have an instruction book that came with the unit that will cover it's operation in more depth or you can click HERE

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[fenceline 0]

So are you saying that the time (between 17 and 20 seconds) is the time the Vigil feels the jumper has left to make up his own mind before the Vigil deploys for him??

[fab777 0]

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[kelpdiver 2]

doesn't the vigil record some basic jump stats (delay, max speed)? I think he's saying it doesn't record very accurately for his wing suit jumps.

[LouDiamond 1]

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I think he's saying it doesn't record very accurately for his wing suit jumps.

I am not positive what he is saying either. Perhaps he will expound more on the situation.

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[dragon2 2]

we have a lady bird at our dz that jumps a vigil and also sorta uses it as her logbook. She claims to have 2 recorded jumps for each wingsuit jump, so she has to delete one of those, and she's not even that good a wingsuiter (I think she goes 65-70 mph or so).

ciel bleu,
Saskia

[JFK 0]

Hello Chris,
No bug in there, if you check [url=http://www.wuza.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=161197#161197]wuza[/url] there is a detailed explanation.

In short, according to the manufacturer, Vigil is not a data logger, it can not be compared to a Protrack or Neptune.

However, it still does its job and if for any reason you are falling faster than 35m/s below the activation altitude it will fire the cutter.

Falling less than 35m/s in a wingsuit means that you are certainly fully concious of what you are doing and either you are unaware of your altitude or you decided to pull low. In either case an AAD can't save your ass if you're not smart :)

Jul.

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[chris74 0]

Hi birds,
You did a good summary , thanks
1) Vigil is not an efficient data recorder (i have to buy a Neptune)
2) i don't want a jump interdictions so i won't try to fire my AAD pulling low .
3)If i get a response from Vigil , i will post it up .
Blue skies
Chris
P.S sorry for my english!!

[JFK 0]

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P.S sorry for my english!!

It's fine Chris don't worry :)
Si t'as d'uatres questions, fais signe... Haut-Savoyard? :)

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[LouDiamond 1]

This is from the guys at Vigil:

Concerning speed and time data of free fall, we can confirm that:



- The Vigil is not a data logger and can’t be compared to the Protrack.



- The Vigil detects the free fall as soon as the speed reaches 35m/sec/ (78mph (126km/h)) in PRO mode. If the free fall is below 35m/sec. during more than a 5/8 of a sec., the Vigil will consider that the freefall (data displayed on LCD) is over, but stays active in its measurements up to the ground.



The displayed value is an indicative average data of free fall based on the one internally used by the Vigil.



In the case of a wing suit jump, it is true that the speed can be below 78mph (126km/h) and the Vigil considers you are not in free fall anymore and will not activate.



Of course, if the speed is higher than 78mph, the Vigil will activate at 840 ft and below in PRO.

We hope that we have helped you with these explanations.



We stay at your entire disposal for any further information that you could require.



Blue skies,



Edwin

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