DZSLK 0 #1 October 28, 2005 http://www.bird-man.com/?n=windtunnel&nose=6 Thank you Visa Thank you Bird-Man Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boachanoff 0 #2 October 28, 2005 http://www.bird-man.com/?n=windtunnel&nose=6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZSLK 0 #3 October 28, 2005 sorry bad link.. but still i like!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #4 October 28, 2005 You gotta love the gas tanks!!! Nicely done, 30 sec of leveled flight!Memento Audere Semper 903 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZSLK 0 #5 October 28, 2005 I only get video from net!! Maybe i know then... who knows!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #6 October 28, 2005 How much does one of those engines cost, where did they get them from, how much thrust does it put out, and how long did it run on that water bottle Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivingdutch 0 #7 October 29, 2005 What the heck kind of suit is that with the arm wing spoilers propped open? http://dropman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #8 October 29, 2005 Sweet...I think the video mentions an exit altitude of 2 KM, and opening at 1,5 KM. That's 2 minutes of flight in 500 meters of freefall...awesome..!!!! Especialy the 30 seconds of completely level flight..this would probably open up a whole new bag of tricks on base-jumps Now remove the parachute, and install a keg, filled with fuel :)JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #9 October 29, 2005 QuoteNow remove the parachute, and install a keg, filled with fuel :) You joke but a small keg like container hooked up to a camera belly mount is entirely feasible."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #10 October 29, 2005 It was cool what Visa did. Kudos to the dude. Quote Now remove the parachute, and install a keg, filled with fuel :) Remove the wingsuit and use rigid wings. That way the fuel can be stored elegantly without having to use the water bottles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #11 October 29, 2005 Quote Remove the wingsuit and use rigid wings. That way the fuel can be stored elegantly without having to use the water bottles. Yea, but that would take the fun out of powered body-flight, and turn it into some vague felix-esque thing, with a complete glider on your back Don't know...rocket-boots with wingsuits sounds cooler to me JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #12 October 30, 2005 Quote Yea, but that would take the fun out of powered body-flight, and turn it into some vague felix-esque thing, with a complete glider on your back Correction : It would be more Rossy-esque Wait it is Rossy-esque gone backward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #13 November 2, 2005 That video rocked. Now, just how far is it from the top of El Cap to the nearest park boundary? NickD BASE 194 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #14 November 2, 2005 QuoteThat video rocked. Now, just how far is it from the top of El Cap to the nearest park boundary? NickD BASE 194 Atleast 20 hot water bottles from one exit point, and maybe 42 of them and a slight left turn from the other.....? Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #15 November 2, 2005 QuoteWhat the heck kind of suit is that with the arm wing spoilers propped open? Wondering the same thing.I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #16 November 2, 2005 Looks like an S3S with some mylar supports in the front air deflectors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #17 November 2, 2005 You mean the spoilers, right? www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #18 November 3, 2005 anyone know anything about the engines? I can think of all kinds of trouble, I mean fun you could have with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trae 1 #19 November 3, 2005 Try searching for----------- JetCat, AMT , PST, SimJet, Wren under Micro-turbines & perhaps try Jet International Magazine/Website Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Costyn 1 #20 November 3, 2005 QuoteLooks like an S3S with some mylar supports in the front air deflectors. I thought the S3S has mylar standard in the wing deflectors? The models I've seen did, at least. Or they were very stiff at any rate. CheersCostyn van Dongen - http://www.flylikebrick.com/ - World Wide Wingsuit News Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #21 November 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteLooks like an S3S with some mylar supports in the front air deflectors. I thought the S3S has mylar standard in the wing deflectors? The models I've seen did, at least. Or they were very stiff at any rate. Cheers The deflectors on the S3S don't have any mylar-support ribs, it's just a stiffer material..JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kege 0 #22 November 4, 2005 Hi, the suit is not and S3S, it's a regular S3 with some pretty innovative rigging. That includes a lot of sewing to make all the necessary pockets and routes for the wiring, data terminals, input controls etc. And the leading edges on the wings are just one hint of the wicked R&D that's going on. You should have seen the faces of people walking by in the park when we tested the setup on the ground... There's more to come, just sit back and enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #23 November 4, 2005 What ever it is, that was a cool video! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Visa 0 #24 November 4, 2005 About Bird-man and Jetengines First of all we are just ordinary skydivers and we do not have any specific skills or training for doing this. We do this just for fun. We love skydiving and we want to do it more. So we started to search for powerplants to get more airtime. Propeller is most efficient but pretty hard to combine. It would be cool to have propeller helmet though. Peroxide rockets were tested because of economical price, poweroutput and lightweight and -size.(www.peroxidepropulsion.com) Power output is great but fuel economy is really bad for slow moving objects. We had great fun to make own rockets and ground testing them. Before air testing we left them behind because of the fuel economy. Meanwhile we got the opportunity to go windtunnel to Finnish university. Lucky that they had ready made testbench for testing skijumpers. The estimate was that 95 kg jumper (my exit weight) needs 24 kg thrust to maintane flight level. Bad news were that it was physically really hard to "fly" there. We were really worried about this. Then we found suppier for jet engines(www.artesjet.com) Power supply is 16 kg thrust so we needed to have two. For two engines total fuel consumption is approx 1liter/min.full power "Design": We havent really designed anything but just done. couple of things we are not willing to compromise 1) The flyer has to be flexible and able to use his whole body as a plane. 2) Construction has to look more like flying man than ultralight airplane So we have rocket boots. As a boot we are using ice skating boot. This works pretty well, you can actually point the thrust. This feature is used by most sophisticated jetplanes only. Most of the other stuff is fitted (batteries , fuel pumps, fuel solenid, gas solenoid, filters and computer unit ) on the boot also. The system weight is 3.5 kilos/rocket boot total. (Engine weight is approx.1.5kg) Only gas tanks, fuel and controlls remains with the suit. We are using hot water bottles as a gastank. This way you have totally closed system which drains till last drop and works all positions. The bad thing is that the material does not like kerosine and goes hard in couple of days.Starting gas is needed also. Propane is better because of high altitude and coldness. Controlls are my left hand and i am able to adjust power easily. On the right hand i have safety swich. It stops the engines as soon i let the handle off. Now we have had first air tests.Power estimate is about right, it is easy to control and physically it is as normal bird-man flying. We did not have any flight recorders with but will have at next test. We continue testing and developing even finnish weather conditions are pretty extreme at the moment Our target at the moment is to have longer flights (+5 min), maintane flight level for whole flight and have fun and better video material. to those who have daughts about this i would like to say that 10 years ago this kind of engines were deep dream. Who knows what kind of powerplants we have after 5 years from now on. Blue skies Visa Ps. The suit is Stock Bird-man S-3 but i have tested different designs to get more lift BECAUSE I AM FAT ( yes i am on diet firs time in my life) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #25 November 5, 2005 Visa, Thanks for the post of your flight. Nevermind the thoughts of those who will always continue to shadow dout, and always continue to pursue the dream of what makes you feel happy and alive! Be safe Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites