chrisgray 0 #1 April 13, 2007 Any birds want to come out to Skydive Orange (VA) on Sunday May 6th? Keep in mind that bird people are welcome to SD Orange any time!!! I am organizing a group of non-skydiving friends to make tandems that day but want some wingsuit people to flock with. Bob, I know you will be at Orange that weekend! You too Stoney & Brandon!! -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #2 April 13, 2007 Lemme snag my schedule and hopefully I'll be there.....one never knows. Dude, call me and let's get wasted here in town one night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinBob 0 #3 April 13, 2007 QuoteBob, I know you will be at Orange that weekend! You too Stoney & Brandon!! Yes, I'll be there, but Friday and Saturday are my DZ days. I have to go to a banquet Sat nite, and there are some events on Sunday morning and early Sunday afternoon that I need to be present for. I have a flight back from Richmond at 6:30pm. Try to arrive earlier on Sat if you can. BF Old Guys Rock! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottGray 0 #4 April 14, 2007 Ok .... you are making me jelous now. I will see what I can do to make it. I have some other activities the weeks prior to and after this date. Have lots of fun guys. Perhaps Orange can become the next flocking center for the mid-atlantic.WSI-5 / PFI-51 / EGI-112 / S-Fly The Brothers Gray Wing Suit Academy Contact us for first flight and basic flocking courses at your DZ or boogie. www.thebrothersgray.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #5 April 19, 2007 Ok VA birds.. this is my last weekend in VA and the weather is supposed to be spectacular.. who's gonna be at orange this weekend ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #6 April 20, 2007 QuoteOk VA birds.. this is my last weekend in VA and the weather is supposed to be spectacular.. who's gonna be at orange this weekend ? I think I will be out part time both days.......got a fat boy suit with you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #7 April 20, 2007 I think Kevin USED to have a larger Classic II for demo, but that was a few years ago. Who knows what he has these days. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #8 April 20, 2007 Yeah I still have all the same suits I used to.. so if you haven't put on any more weight than last time I think I have one that will fit you :) What's with all this fatboy crap.. you become a doctor or whatever and thus become a bum? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #9 April 20, 2007 Quote Yeah I still have all the same suits I used to.. so if you haven't put on any more weight than last time I think I have one that will fit you :) What's with all this fatboy crap.. you become a doctor or whatever and thus become a bum? Hahaha, I don't exactly have the best diet (hospital food) or time to exercise anymore But I'm not too bad.......that original one you taught me my first flight in ...... so.....tight....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #10 April 20, 2007 Dude, you are a bit chunky these days! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #11 April 20, 2007 Quote Dude, you are a bit chunky these days! Says the skinny little monkey. My thigh is bigger than your waist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #12 April 21, 2007 Quote Quote Dude, you are a bit chunky these days! Says the skinny little monkey. My thigh is bigger than your waist. And you are BRAGGING about that??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisgray 0 #13 April 27, 2007 Alright, who wants to join me out at SkyDive Orange (VA) on Sunday May 6th for some wingsuit fun??? Anyone??? -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisgray 0 #14 May 1, 2007 OK...so here is the latest WS fun at Skydive Orange. On larger tracking dives I join them for some swoopage. Generally flying several high speed passes around the group. First pass I think about 60-80 mph closing speeds and swooping about 30 feet in front of lead tracker. So much fun for me and it seems to scare the shit out of the trackers on the first pass. Now all I need is a couple wingmen and we dive bomb it as a group. Hope to see more birdies at Orange soon!!! -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #15 May 1, 2007 QuoteGenerally flying several high speed passes around the group. Do you mean flying circles around the group?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JENNR8R 0 #16 May 1, 2007 On larger tracking dives I join them for some swoopage. Generally flying several high speed passes around the group. First pass I think about 60-80 mph closing speeds and swooping about 30 feet in front of lead tracker. So much fun for me and it seems to scare the shit out of the trackers on the first pass. Now all I need is a couple wingmen and we dive bomb it as a group. Quote Careful... The tandem masters are extremely wary of wingsuiters at Orange. Make sure everyone on the tracking dive knows your plans and can 'opt out' if they are not comfortable with what you are going to do. Orange seems to err on the side of caution on safety issues.What do you call a beautiful, sunny day that comes after two cloudy, rainy ones? -- Monday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites normiss 806 #17 May 1, 2007 your comments remind me of the attitude Z-hills had just as our numbers started to grow...the TI's were VERY weary of us.... Now they REQUEST us to zoom them!So, here's what worked for us: 1: SAFETY FIRST! 2: get them up and flying a wingsuit with you 3. never allow someone with low jump numbers and/or skills to zoom them. 4. follow up the jump with a chat to make sure they are still comfortable with it over time, if they know you're safe and at least as cautious as they are, they will begin to see the way of the wing...be safe guys...not toooooo close! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chrisgray 0 #18 May 1, 2007 Yes, Matt, I mean flying circles around the tracking group. I am in agreement on the safety concerns. Safety is of the greatest importance. The tandem masters at Orange have come to request a flyby whenever I am on the plane. The people organizing the tracking dives usually invite me to come along. These tracking dives are well dicussed in advance and all jumpers are aware of me and know what my approach and flight plan is. I also give the group ample time to tighten up into a formation before I begin my approach so that I am not flying by any straglers. I hope to promote WS jumping in a safe manner. I absolutely do not want to put a bad light on WS flying. Thanks for the concern. -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #19 May 1, 2007 There was an initial reluctance when Kevin and I were jumping wingsuits at Orange several years back. However, once they realized we were not maniacs zooming around without care for others safety, they became quite comfortable with wingsuits and flybys. Like most things in skydiving, once people get to know the individual and their habits and you earn their trust, they are more willing to ask you on the dive or to buzz them under canopy, etc."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites The111 1 #20 May 1, 2007 QuoteYes, Matt, I mean flying circles around the tracking group. Keep in mind that unless you can count every single person in the entire group, and have them all in your sight, there is always the chance that somebody is high and your circular path will bring you into a head-on collision. It can be safely done I guess, but I've never liked this idea in general.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chrisgray 0 #21 May 2, 2007 Yes Matt. I agree with your view. I think that before you join such a tracking dive you need to consider both the size of the tracking dive and the skill level of each individual. If the group is too large or there are people who are not strong and consistent trackers than it should be avoided. Thanks for everyones views. These discussions are good for all of us who fly wingsuits. -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chrisgray 0 #22 May 2, 2007 Besides Bob Futrell...Who is coming out to SD Orange (VA) for some WS action this weekend? -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildcard451 0 #23 May 2, 2007 QuoteYes Matt. I agree with your view. I think that before you join such a tracking dive you need to consider both the size of the tracking dive and the skill level of each individual. If the group is too large or there are people who are not strong and consistent trackers than it should be avoided. Thanks for everyones views. These discussions are good for all of us who fly wingsuits. -Chris- Fucking dirty WS scaring me on that tracking dive. You're the reason I took out the leader at the end. /yeah, that sounds like a good excuse...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FlyinBob 0 #24 May 7, 2007 I had a good visit to Skydive Orange VA this weekend, despite the weather. Mike, Ned, and the others were very hospitable, and the facilities make it a first class club! Unfortunately, the ceiling remained at 5500' so we only got some low jumps in from the Cessna on Friday (but I did ~40 secs from 5300' in my Phantom, and some self-geek video!). Rained Sat and although crystal clear on Sunday, it was 25+ winds so nothing to do but watch videos and talk jumping most of the weekend. I did do some FFC instruction for Juan on Friday, but we did not finish as we could not get altitude for FFC completion. He'll be a great flyer after training and some flights. Good body for wingsuit flying - 6'4" and lanky with good strength. Chris, good to see you again - last was FND3 at ZHills. Hope you get to Texas for Skyfest in July. It'll be grand - it's like a carnival for jumpers, many different and interesting things to do. Lot's of different aircraft, and lots of different jumpers. Thanks for all the help and hospitality guys! Regards, BF FlyinBob D-5526 PFI-37 Old Guys Rock! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chrisgray 0 #25 May 8, 2007 Hey Bob. It was great having you here. Sorry that the weather was poop the whole time. It still was alot of fun. You missed an awesome Cinco de Mayo party on Saturday night. Lets just say that I was not in the best of shape on Sunday morning...haha. See you at Skyfest. We need all the birdmen & birdwomen we can get. Perhaps we can do a Texas WS record!!! -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
normiss 806 #17 May 1, 2007 your comments remind me of the attitude Z-hills had just as our numbers started to grow...the TI's were VERY weary of us.... Now they REQUEST us to zoom them!So, here's what worked for us: 1: SAFETY FIRST! 2: get them up and flying a wingsuit with you 3. never allow someone with low jump numbers and/or skills to zoom them. 4. follow up the jump with a chat to make sure they are still comfortable with it over time, if they know you're safe and at least as cautious as they are, they will begin to see the way of the wing...be safe guys...not toooooo close! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisgray 0 #18 May 1, 2007 Yes, Matt, I mean flying circles around the tracking group. I am in agreement on the safety concerns. Safety is of the greatest importance. The tandem masters at Orange have come to request a flyby whenever I am on the plane. The people organizing the tracking dives usually invite me to come along. These tracking dives are well dicussed in advance and all jumpers are aware of me and know what my approach and flight plan is. I also give the group ample time to tighten up into a formation before I begin my approach so that I am not flying by any straglers. I hope to promote WS jumping in a safe manner. I absolutely do not want to put a bad light on WS flying. Thanks for the concern. -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #19 May 1, 2007 There was an initial reluctance when Kevin and I were jumping wingsuits at Orange several years back. However, once they realized we were not maniacs zooming around without care for others safety, they became quite comfortable with wingsuits and flybys. Like most things in skydiving, once people get to know the individual and their habits and you earn their trust, they are more willing to ask you on the dive or to buzz them under canopy, etc."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #20 May 1, 2007 QuoteYes, Matt, I mean flying circles around the tracking group. Keep in mind that unless you can count every single person in the entire group, and have them all in your sight, there is always the chance that somebody is high and your circular path will bring you into a head-on collision. It can be safely done I guess, but I've never liked this idea in general.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisgray 0 #21 May 2, 2007 Yes Matt. I agree with your view. I think that before you join such a tracking dive you need to consider both the size of the tracking dive and the skill level of each individual. If the group is too large or there are people who are not strong and consistent trackers than it should be avoided. Thanks for everyones views. These discussions are good for all of us who fly wingsuits. -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisgray 0 #22 May 2, 2007 Besides Bob Futrell...Who is coming out to SD Orange (VA) for some WS action this weekend? -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #23 May 2, 2007 QuoteYes Matt. I agree with your view. I think that before you join such a tracking dive you need to consider both the size of the tracking dive and the skill level of each individual. If the group is too large or there are people who are not strong and consistent trackers than it should be avoided. Thanks for everyones views. These discussions are good for all of us who fly wingsuits. -Chris- Fucking dirty WS scaring me on that tracking dive. You're the reason I took out the leader at the end. /yeah, that sounds like a good excuse...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinBob 0 #24 May 7, 2007 I had a good visit to Skydive Orange VA this weekend, despite the weather. Mike, Ned, and the others were very hospitable, and the facilities make it a first class club! Unfortunately, the ceiling remained at 5500' so we only got some low jumps in from the Cessna on Friday (but I did ~40 secs from 5300' in my Phantom, and some self-geek video!). Rained Sat and although crystal clear on Sunday, it was 25+ winds so nothing to do but watch videos and talk jumping most of the weekend. I did do some FFC instruction for Juan on Friday, but we did not finish as we could not get altitude for FFC completion. He'll be a great flyer after training and some flights. Good body for wingsuit flying - 6'4" and lanky with good strength. Chris, good to see you again - last was FND3 at ZHills. Hope you get to Texas for Skyfest in July. It'll be grand - it's like a carnival for jumpers, many different and interesting things to do. Lot's of different aircraft, and lots of different jumpers. Thanks for all the help and hospitality guys! Regards, BF FlyinBob D-5526 PFI-37 Old Guys Rock! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisgray 0 #25 May 8, 2007 Hey Bob. It was great having you here. Sorry that the weather was poop the whole time. It still was alot of fun. You missed an awesome Cinco de Mayo party on Saturday night. Lets just say that I was not in the best of shape on Sunday morning...haha. See you at Skyfest. We need all the birdmen & birdwomen we can get. Perhaps we can do a Texas WS record!!! -Chris-WSI-6 / PFI-55 The Brothers Gray Wingsuit Academy http://www.myspace.com/cgwingsuitpilot http://www.myspace.com/thebrothersgray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites