mamba + wingsuit?

[feuergnom 28]

over in ther german forum we are having some discussions wether a mamba (like the 117 sqft model) might be suited for ws-flying or not.
if find the thought very disturbing (to be straight forward: i think its ridiculous), others don't seem to think of it as a problem at all.

so i'm shopping for some thoughts from you experienced guys. thx for input

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[dragon2 2]

Meh, I jumped a veangeance for a few wingsuit jumps myself and right now I jump a springo (sorta like a stiletto). If it's your canopy, you got loads of jumps and loads on jumps on this canopy plus at least 25 wingsuit jumps, you should know what you're doing right? A lot of people fly their hp canopies for wingsuiting, then again, a lot of them then buy a nice little spectre or similar after a while

Of course it's not the best canopy. I very probably wouldn't let a wingsuit student of mine jump it for the first wingsuit jumps, but after that, it's your funeral eh reserve ride

ciel bleu,
Saskia

[piisfish 140]

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over in ther german forum we are having some discussions wether a mamba (like the 117 sqft model) might be suited for ws-flying or not.
if find the thought very disturbing (to be straight forward: i think its ridiculous), others don't seem to think of it as a problem at all.

it can work. Certainly not the smartest choice.

Like jumping a video helmet with a ringsite mounted with metal screws, no cutaway on the helmet etc.... It works.. until shit hits the fan.

scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

[Tonto 1]

Things are usually always OK until they're not.

I only have 290 wingsuit dives, and I'm not that current on wingsuits, averaging about 6 WS jumps a month. AFF earns my jump money, and I've also recently begun to compete in CP, and that seems to be getting the bulk of my fun dives these days.

My main canopies for AFF are an FX 93 and a Velo 84 at the moment. I think both of those would be too much of a handful for me on a wingsuit jump, and so use a Safire 109.

I wouldn't jump a Mamba with a wingsuit either. I have 20 cutaways already, and I know reserves don't work perfectly every time. What's the point of having a suit that lets you fly for longer when you need to dump so much higher to deal with a mal?

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[pierre3636 0]

it will open be fine untill that once ....

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[hjumper33 0]

As long as it flies fairly straight in line twists, youll be fine. I jump my XF2 129 and havent had a problem with it yet. I know someone who will jump a velo loaded at 2.4 with his wingsuit, that one might be a little much.

[TALONSKY 0]

I personally have jumped a Crossfire 2 loaded 1.85:1 with a wingsuit for 40 jumps. I did not like that in the few instances that I had line twist the canopy pointed it's self to the ground. I curently fly a VX loaded 2.1:1, with a wingsuit. I find that the VX handles line twist better (at least in my experiance).
Canopy choice is a personal one, you need to choose your comfort zone and realize the inherent risks with the wing you choose. I openned a 1000 feet higher with the crossfire due to the longer opennings and its flight characteristics in line twist.
I open at 3500 feet with my VX to allow time if something happens on openning. The safest choice is a square or semi-elliptical canopy.
Kirk

[Jiggs 0]

I have a mamba 117 and do not jump it with my wingsuit. I have only put about 100 jumps on the canopy at the moment but I don't think it is the best option.

Sure it can be used, but it is not the right tool.

The mamba is generally a fantastically opening canopy. When it does go pear shaped however it can be quite a handful.

I would also say it is one of the most "active" canopies on openings that I have flown. More so that a stiletto or similar canopy.

I would recommend against it (that was the same decision that I made for myself!)

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[Thomas.air 0]

I have a katana 97 loaded at about 1.8, and did 20 or 30 WS jumps with it, I never have had a twist with this canopy, but I have about 250 WS jumps and my opening pattern is really sure and constant.
I think the katana openings are better than the mamba openings.
But in order to have a bad surprise with the katana, I pulled higher (about 1000-1100 m)

I also have a pilot 104, my previous canopy (before katana) that I kept for WS, but I didn't switch my 2 canopies on my rig because of good opening of the KA.
And now that I have a velocity, I will use my pilot for WS jumps, which is really well done for WS jumps and I can pull lower (800-900 m) without bad surprise.

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