martwald 0 #1 November 3, 2003 How do people feel about tying bungee cord to the leg straps to hold leg straps in place? Should this be required on a good fitting rig (second hand rig direct from Sunpath with alterations to suit personal dimensions paid for). I can’t get a response from Sunpath so any comments would be appreciated, maybe it’s perfectly normal, maybe not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #2 November 3, 2003 I had the bungee cord on my old rig's leg straps. Virtually all my friends have too. Its widely recomended and a very common mod. A lot of people use them as its a very good way of keeping your leg straps in place. Even the leg straps on custom rigs will slip in a sit. I had it happen to me at the weekend on my custom rig. I have yet to stick a bungee through the loops that are provided specifically for this by the maker. I will do so as soon as I can get my hands on some cord. The bungee is not load bearing. Your leg straps are the only thing that take any weight. The bungee just keeps the leg straps where they are supposed to be. I've never heard of anyone advising against it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #3 November 3, 2003 On the Odyessey, there should be some Type IV (pull-up cord material) sewn to the legstraps in small loops. This is for bungee. Simply pass the bungee through each loop and tie a knot at each end to keep it from coming back through the loops. This is common practice for free flyers. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #4 November 3, 2003 it is perfectly normal. as a matter of fact, it is listed as an option (freefly mod) on another major gear manufacturers equipment. you can choose to use it or not. if you don't want to use it, remove the bungee. simple as that. arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #5 November 3, 2003 Just wanted to add, I thought I read somewhere that skydive arizona requires the mod on fun jump rigs? blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #6 November 3, 2003 The mod is incompatible with bird-man suits, which is why I no longer have one. You need to take the bugee off before you can strap on a wingsuit. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 November 3, 2003 I have'nt used one in over 400 Freefly jumps and with it needing gone to hook up to my Birdman suit I threw mine away. My legstraps have never moved once I finally started tightening them all the way.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedeisurf 0 #8 November 4, 2003 My first jump on my custom made wings my leg straps were down around my knees I sit fly a lot and hooked up the elastic strap after the first jump. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #9 November 4, 2003 Quote Just wanted to add, I thought I read somewhere that skydive arizona requires the mod on fun jump rigs? Really? I have almost 150 sit fly jumps on my Mirage G3 and I've never had my legstraps slip and I don't have a bungee on mine and I have no desire to have one added to mine.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martwald 0 #10 November 4, 2003 Thanks for all the comments. As it stands my Odyssey leg straps can go all the way down to my knees on a sit fly regardless of how much I tighten the legstraps (the padding overlaps by about 1" when tightened - leaving way too much excess strap to stow!). Anyway, very unhappy with the fit of my Odyssey and bereft of a response from Sunpath I will be adding the bungee cord :-( One comment: If I remember correctly this method of controlling the legstraps originated as a retrofit for older rigs in order to make them freefly friendly. Surely it shouldn't be required on a rig specifically designed for freefly? I have an old Racer on which the leg straps don't budge at all during a sit fly - possibly due to it not being articulated like the Odyssey I just bought. No, I can't continue to use the Racer as all rigs with any Velcro have been banned for freeflying in Ireland - debated ad nauseam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #11 November 4, 2003 Check out these two threds:Falling out of a rig and:Leg straps and hip rings This method is not just a rerofit but something thats done to a lot of new rigs, especially those designed for FF. It comes as standard on some and on others its an option. Its a free option on my Wings. Most people like the pads to overlap a bit as this is how they are most comfortable, they're designed to do that. If you cant stow all the excess, double it up. It sounds like your leg straps may be too long for you. If because of the padding, you cannot tighten them up to the point that they hurt then they are too long. If you can get them this tight then the are not. If your not happy with how long your leg straps are just tell Sun Path and they will probably send you a set for free, their customer care us usually pretty good. I will warn you though that the most common cause for fitting problems is an error when measuring. They will probably first ask you to check your measurements. If this is the case they will probably not swap them for free... but then thats the fault of whoever measured you, not theirs. Don't be sad about adding bungee cord... its not a bad thing but a safety device that many if not most people have these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meatbomb 0 #12 November 4, 2003 QuoteOne comment: If I remember correctly this method of controlling the legstraps originated as a retrofit for older rigs in order to make them freefly friendly. Surely it shouldn't be required on a rig specifically designed for freefly? The only rig (that I know of) specifically designed from the ground up for freefly is the Voodoo. All other rigs (that I know of) were designed for flat-flying, and modified for freeflying.--- Swoopert, CS-Aiiiiiii! Piccies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #13 November 4, 2003 QuoteOne comment: If I remember correctly this method of controlling the legstraps originated as a retrofit for older rigs in order to make them freefly friendly. Surely it shouldn't be required on a rig specifically designed for freefly? Does your Odyessey have the small type IV loops on the legstraps for the bungee? Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #14 November 4, 2003 Quote I have'nt used one in over 400 Freefly jumps and with it needing gone to hook up to my Birdman suit I threw mine away Same here. I ditched mine at Rantoul, and the hundred jumps I've done since then - no problems whatsoever. I bought a new rig last week, and I won't put one on this one. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billdo 0 #15 November 5, 2003 One comment, Definitely use small type bungee cord and not pull up cords to connect the leg straps. I see a surprising amount of jumpers use pull up cords for this, but I was warned by a jumper not to do this after he nearly LOST A TESTICLE ON OPENING from a non-stretch type cord between his legstarps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martwald 0 #16 November 5, 2003 Hi All, As it turns out, the alterations I requested never actually took place hence I have a rig suited to a 6'3" person and I'm only 6'. I only found this out yesterday so obviously it explains a lot about my concerns. Yikes that pull up cord incident made me cringe. Martin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
