tr027 0 #1 March 16, 2008 Utilizing an uncanny mix of jumpers from around the world, the Zflock 4.0 Flock just finished a nice 16-way diamond. Congratulations to all who participated; good work! "The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #2 March 17, 2008 participants include Scott Bland Mike Masheff (Gray Mike) Zach Schroedel Justin Shorb Tero Paukku Chris Gray Scott Gray Scott Campos Brian Snarr Purple Mike Brian Caldwell (Lurch) Ted Cheslek (Professor) Jason Weisberg (Voodew) Scot Callantine (SDC) Chuck Blue Jeff Nebelkopf (heffro1) Video and photos by Matt Hoover and Scotty Burns. Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Costyn 1 #3 March 18, 2008 Quote Video and photos by Matt Hoover and Scotty Burns. I wanna see! Bring on the pics! Costyn van Dongen - http://www.flylikebrick.com/ - World Wide Wingsuit News Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voodew1 0 #4 March 18, 2008 QuoteI wanna see! Bring on the pics! I wanna see and I was on the jump -- i guess we have to wait The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhoenixRising 0 #5 March 18, 2008 ANAL SEX...........ITS FOR YOUR FUTURE Dude i forgot about that. Suuuuper fucking funny. you should somehow integrate that into your TWAT first flight courses, but make sure you "EASE" your students in. BANG!!!!!!!!!!!! Justin ShorbWingsuit organizing, first flight courses and coaching Flock University Tonysuits Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #6 March 20, 2008 Quote I wanna see and I was on the jump Guess this one point jump bullshit you baggin on, and the, "bigways are for egos driven crack heads" statement should be considered, "Talkin out your ass".......Nice formation. www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #7 March 20, 2008 You know it wouldn't be skydiving without a few ego driven crackheads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #8 March 20, 2008 Quote You know it wouldn't be skydiving without a few ego driven crackheads. ........and we had one in Texas just come out of the closet.www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voodew1 0 #9 March 20, 2008 Blah - Blah - Blah 16 way is not really what I would call a bigway and it very easily could have been a 2 or 3 point skydive So close to being 'perfect' Which brings up a thought -- who keys the transition to the next point since no one can really see the entire formation --- does the camera man now become the key? The camera man then becomes a necessity instead of a luxury The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #10 March 20, 2008 QuoteWhich brings up a thought -- who keys the transition to the next point since no one can really see the entire formation --- does the camera man now become the key? The camera man then becomes a necessity instead of a luxury On some of the smaller multiple point jumps we did, we had one of the people in the back (who has the overview) key the next point, by going to the front of the formation (where his slot for the next point is). His new position is visable to everyone, so that person moving would be the key/signal for the (2/3 stage) build of the next point. Having the entire formation look away for a key from a cameraman would be a hard, as just looking away a few seconds is enought to have people loose the reference/person(s) they are flying to/on, and cause waves/movement within the formation that will most likely result in some people going out of their slot. Putting key/signal flyers in the formation seems like the easiest solution.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voodew1 0 #11 March 20, 2008 I was meaning that the camera flyer would either fly below the formation at the key or would fly in front to signal the key. I never meant everyone would have to look at the camera man -- the camera man would make himself visible to the formation at certain times The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #12 March 20, 2008 Quote I was meaning that the camera flyer would either fly below the formation at the key or would fly in front to signal the key. I never meant everyone would have to look at the camera man -- the camera man would make himself visible to the formation at certain times You're still gonna get people constantly glancing at the cameraguy, instead of focussing 100% on flying their slot. But maybe we should wait with multiple point dives on 16 ways, untill we get to the point where all 16 people are actually in their slot in a 16 way, instead of 15 and one out (who was that btw?)JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadget 0 #13 March 20, 2008 Quote Quote IBut maybe we should wait with multiple point dives on 16 ways, untill we get to the point where all 16 people are actually in their slot in a 16 way, instead of 15 and one out (who was that btw?) OuchIf people from Poland are called Poles, why aren't people from Holland called Holes??? My logbook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voodew1 0 #14 March 20, 2008 I am not really sure who it is -- but I think its a Flock U guy The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lurch 0 #16 March 20, 2008 Nope... If it was one of my guys he'd have already presented himself for a smacking, been smacked and moved on. Wasn't us. -BLive and learn... or die, and teach by example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #17 March 20, 2008 QuoteOn some of the smaller multiple point jumps we did, we had one of the people in the back (who has the overview) key the next point, by going to the front of the formation (where his slot for the next point is). Which is exactly what I have done for a long time on the formations I organize. It works great for good flyers that aren't struggling at the back of the formation, and are able to move up front and fly a good base.www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voodew1 0 #18 March 20, 2008 I know who it is and in his defense he was on the load before and missed all the dirt dive - he flew that slot the entire dive -- it just wasn't the right slot I just like fuckin with the Flock U guys The pimp hand is powdered up ... say something stupid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #19 March 20, 2008 Quote It works great for good flyers that aren't struggling at the back of the formation, and are able to move up front and fly a good base. If you're thinking about doing a 2nd/3d etc point, then technicaly, you shouldnt have any flyers strugglingBut that lame joke aside...you dont have to switch base. You can keep the base flyer the same (also prevents sudden pace/fallrate variations) and have one or two flyers from the back move to more forward slots (where they are in clear view of all other flyers) and have that as the key/signal for the rest. They dont have to take over the base role. As usually, the base is salso omeone who is more then happy (and good at) setting the pace, and being the center of attention on all pix and video..JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #20 March 20, 2008 Quote Quote It works great for good flyers that aren't struggling at the back of the formation, and are able to move up front and fly a good base. If you're thinking about doing a 2nd/3d etc point, then technicaly, you shouldnt have any flyers strugglingBut that lame joke aside...you dont have to switch base. You can keep the base flyer the same (also prevents sudden pace/fallrate variations) and have one or two flyers from the back move to more forward slots (where they are in clear view of all other flyers) and have that as the key/signal for the rest. They dont have to take over the base role. As usually, the base is salso omeone who is more then happy (and good at) setting the pace, and being the center of attention on all pix and video.. Your correct, the person that moves to the front doesn't have to be base, but not may people like to fly base, except Bland, so I try to switch it up abit to keep everyone happy. www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #21 March 20, 2008 Yea...Its a good things we have people like Bland, Wienberg and Schoeber (gadget). Without them, we wouldnt have the solid, smooth and well paced basis for many of the awesome jumps we're doing everywhere.. Flying base, and keeping everybody happy in terms of forward pace and fallrate is a completely seperate skill not many posses (and like doing) *edited for zwpelling*JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattersd 0 #22 March 20, 2008 Quote but not may people like to fly base, except Bland, so I try to switch it up abit to keep everyone happy. I haven't noticed that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottygofast 0 #23 March 20, 2008 Ye asked, and ye shall recieve~~ Check out all the photos from flock and dock and puerto rico~ come see em at www.sky2productions.comZ Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #24 March 20, 2008 Quote I haven't noticed that! You are a good base, Dave. You'll be exiting last in May then.....www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Costyn 1 #25 March 29, 2008 Quote Ye asked, and ye shall recieve~~ Check out all the photos from flock and dock and puerto rico~ come see em at www.sky2productions.com Very nice... looks good guys!! Costyn van Dongen - http://www.flylikebrick.com/ - World Wide Wingsuit News Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
