tr027 0 #26 September 15, 2008 Is there a group order deal? I've got at least 1 maybe 2 other orders to send in with mine."The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdrake529 0 #27 September 15, 2008 If you're in the US, Morpheus is the dealer for Phoenix Fly. When myself and 2 other friends all ordered our Acros in the same order in March 07, there was a 12% group discount. I'd check with Morpheus http://www.baserigs.com to see if they still have the same deal.Brian Drake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hannes1 0 #28 September 15, 2008 personal experience after some (20+) base flights with the suit on different sights: the suit is easier to fly comparing to V1,V2,Vx not meaning the suit is easy...it can fly you also,more power for nice flights but also more power if something is not going super solid. exits for example. but after changing arm-wing position on exit all is fine. pilots can fly faster if they know how , but suit is not automatically faster. biggest benefits ...according to faster inflation the suit starts earlier to fly...did some 2 ways together with V2, and after some seconds you find yourself way higher. better glide indeed...not measured by ratio point x to y but easy to see how far i was able to fly. a big step forward direction safety ,fun and the dream of flight. Gives you a good feeling at the exit when the only landing is far and the start is short. take care hannes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr027 0 #29 September 18, 2008 For all those still wondering about cost, looks like Morpheus has announced on their site that they are taking orders and it's listed there. It's an unsurprisingly great deal. And yes, the group discount is still in effect. "The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJmoney 0 #30 September 18, 2008 i dunno if 1500 is a great deal, you could call it a fair price. Is the coloring the same, because as far as i can tell the vampire pages of their website identical to v2 pages with the exception of the price and name? PS 1495 makes it the most $$$ suit on market if i can count right. Not by much but it is.word to your mother, RJ$$ BASE 1117 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johenrik 0 #31 September 18, 2008 Quotei dunno if 1500 is a great deal... You forget the fact that the American economy have dropped faster than in a third world country the last years. When V2 was released in 2006 1400$ was about 1080€. Today 1495 equals 1015€. This means that Robbie has cut the prices with more than 5% to help out Americans through your financial difficulties. Some people would actually think thats a very nice gesture. -Jo Henrik Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJmoney 0 #32 September 18, 2008 I'm not complaining, and i'm certainly still buying one so when compared high end suits from other fools it seems a fair price. The euro comparison does make it seem like a good deal though, i had considered the exchange but didn't know it had dropped from v2. cool beans, i can't wait. word to your mother, RJ$$ BASE 1117 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roar 0 #33 October 11, 2008 I love my Prodigy2..but this V3 seems to be THE wingsuit for the next season, i have already start collecting money for a suit...and a ultra low profile rig Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #34 October 12, 2008 Quote Official launch should be in a few weeks If the new suit has the new zip-over-the-shoulder connections as the other suits and the same inflation system as the new suits then I am sure it will be a tremendous success. If my boy Robi still thinks that customers do not want/need a back-vented Vampire than he is sadly mistaken and I will continue to covet my perfect Phantom2 for most things and my Super Mach1 for pure belly performance. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJmoney 0 #35 October 12, 2008 i'm a customer and i don't want a back vents on my vampire 3 if it sacrifices performance.word to your mother, RJ$$ BASE 1117 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #36 October 12, 2008 You are a sadly mistaken customer as am I I've never desired to backfly my V2 either. Its just about the need for speed, purely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #37 October 12, 2008 Quotei'm a customer and i don't want a back vents on my vampire 3 if it sacrifices performance. I am sadly mistaken as well. I just never felt too comfortable backflying with ROL. Of course, that's a personal preference. Also, if performance is sacrificed, I don't want 'em either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJmoney 0 #38 October 12, 2008 thats 100% against em so far chuck! also i won a 20 dollar bet today, are you still franchising your school?word to your mother, RJ$$ BASE 1117 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #39 October 12, 2008 Some of the wingsuit schools out west and up in the north east also teach paintball techniqes and small arms training. They may be a more well rounded investment for the franchisable accredited school dollar in these times of slow economics and weather holds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #40 October 12, 2008 Quotethats 100% against em so far chuck! also i won a 20 dollar bet today, are you still franchising your school? I am actually really surprised at you guys. I don't think that the "new" inlet system hampers PF performance in any way. On the contrary, it has added increased rigidity and inflation on every single other model. FWIW, I still have a Vampire on the rack, but it's definitely not the sharpest tool in the speed/distance category. Not in any of our experiences down here anyway. Until Robi makes a V2 (or bigger) suit with the now-common inlets of the other suits, then everyone should withhold judgement as to whether or not those new inlets "sacrifice performance." Also, regardless of whether or not you personally ever feel the need to backfly in a Vampire, there are a ton of people who do like to. Again, I would just like to see whether or not a V2 (Vx3, whatever) would post usable performance gains (front and rear) with the "new" intake system. I have more PF suits on my rack than I do anything else; they are all great. I just feel that the V series would benefit from the same updates as all of the other suits in the lineup. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJmoney 0 #41 October 12, 2008 i would be also interested to see if a back vented arm vent did increase performance too. I want my v3 to be maximized for glide slope performance, however Robi does that is gonna rock i'm sure. I may backfly in it, but thats not why i'm buying a v3. I'm withholding judgement on the venting situation until it shows up on my doorstep. PS about the venting situation looking at the pictures they look different from the current PF lineup too. No franchising then? word to your mother, RJ$$ BASE 1117 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #42 October 12, 2008 Though its fun to turn it into a suit for flocking and creative flying, I think most people who order/buy a Vx3 buy it as a specialist tool for their intented flying style (fast & far) and probably dont care to much for quick rigging and backflying. Its probably easy to turn it into something else, but why not just buy one of the many other suits specificly designed for flocking/flying on your belly/back/head and quickly zipping it on and off between those tandemloads?Id be quite happy to have a Vx3, and fly it specificly for its design purpoise (or at least try...). For the rest Ill just grab a stealth/sm1/blade/whatever.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #43 October 13, 2008 I have flown and many people do fly their vampires on their backs. Its just that every other suit I do own has the backvents. I don't need them on the vampire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pierre3636 0 #44 October 13, 2008 Quote Id be quite happy to have a Vx3, and fly it specificly for its design purpoise (or at least try...). For the rest Ill just grab a stealth/sm1/blade/whatever.. stop fishing for a free suit off topic - looking forward to the US flocking events next month - hopefully we could see the suits there ! nice one guys ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJmoney 0 #45 October 16, 2008 how much longer does the thread have to get before we get some more v3 pictures? Who else has preordered?word to your mother, RJ$$ BASE 1117 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr027 0 #46 October 16, 2008 I'm guessing it has a few more days but if it helps you could set the existing pictures on your computer background."The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJmoney 0 #47 October 16, 2008 already done, i'm using the post launch one right now. yes im a geek.word to your mother, RJ$$ BASE 1117 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #48 October 16, 2008 V3 exit shot attached. Just a few more days..BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #49 October 20, 2008 Any chance of getting a picture of a Vampire III laid over a Phantom II? Anyone, anyone ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJmoney 0 #50 October 20, 2008 If you put the v3 on top of the phantom i'm pretty sure you'll just see a v3 right?? word to your mother, RJ$$ BASE 1117 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
