Butters 0 #51 October 21, 2008 Quote If you put the v3 on top of the phantom i'm pretty sure you'll just see a v3 right?? Yes. How about the Phantom II laid over the Vampire III?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saly 0 #52 October 21, 2008 You want to get a Phanpire? --------------------------------------------- If you don't have wings you will never fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #53 October 23, 2008 The V3 was launched to the public at the Bridge Day 2008 trade show and generated a lot of interest. I still didn't get a production suit yet but the only change from the version pictured is the cut away system - which is the same as that on the Stealth - running under the zips on the arm sleeves. The handles stow at the hip in the usual position. Everyone who has demoed the suit to date has been very impressed from the 1st jump. Even a few guys that post here have tried it Tony? BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdrake529 0 #54 October 23, 2008 Damn, that looks great! Can't wait (but will have to) until mine arrives (putting in an order shortly). Though I must say, as a male wingsuiter, I'm not sure the idea of my crotch having fangs is desirable, or even makes sense.Brian Drake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #55 October 23, 2008 The fangs were dropped in the end, don't worry. The rear leg wing arrows were kept though.BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #56 October 23, 2008 Quote The rear leg wing arrows were kept though. Could I get those 2 in brown?Was the suit also jumped at bridgeday? Any video online somewhere?JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdrake529 0 #57 October 23, 2008 QuoteThe rear leg wing arrows were kept though. Good, those look cool. Question, on the order form, the "3. Parapack" color option is shown to apply to the leading edge, the rear leg wing arrows, AND two diagonal stripes (fairly thick) on the front leg. But in your picture you have orange for the first two, but black where those diagonal stripes would be. Is this also a change from the proto to production? I'm not sure which I would prefer (stripes being body color and thus not visible, or the highlight color of the other parapack). I'm a black and orange guy myself so I'd like mine made like the one you posted (minus the fangs), though I'd be open to the orange continuing on the front leg in those stripes. Hm.... I guess I'd be happy either way. Thanks,Brian Drake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdrake529 0 #58 October 23, 2008 Quotethe only change from the version pictured is the cut away system - which is the same as that on the Stealth - running under the zips on the arm sleeves. The handles stow at the hip in the usual position. Another question: I've only briefly seen a Stealth in person (when you sent one out to Jeb to try) and neglected to inspect the cutaway system. Basically it allows you to put the suit on and off a rig as easily as a Tony Suit, but cuts away like a Phoenix-Fly/Birdman etc..., correct? Is this a last minute production model addition or were some of the V3 protos equipped with this system? In other words, has this cutaway system been thoroughly tested on the V3 in the BASE environment? If so, is there any difference from the "old" style in terms of performance/inflation/ease of use? With 6-10 weeks delivery time, I'm rationalizing to myself that an impulse order today is really an exercise in delayed gratification... Damn, this really is worse than crack.Brian Drake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdrake529 0 #59 October 23, 2008 And another question: The "belly cam strap openings" option - is there any loss of pressurization/performance by having these put in? I love the belly cam perspective on proxy flying videos so definitely would like to have them as a future option, but not if there's any significant tradeoff in performance.Brian Drake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr027 0 #60 October 23, 2008 Quote Everyone who has demoed the suit to date has been very impressed from the 1st jump. Even a few guys that post here have tried it Tony? Yes, very impressed. PF has outdone themselves again and raised the level of high-performance WS. I'm excited enough that when I get it I'll begin training on it in whatever silly-low temps we'll have here at the time."The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #61 October 23, 2008 QuoteAnd another question: The "belly cam strap openings" option - is there any loss of pressurization/performance by having these put in? I love the belly cam perspective on proxy flying videos so definitely would like to have them as a future option, but not if there's any significant tradeoff in performance. I dont know where the strap openings are, but using a belly-mount like the one from bonehead (belle-vue) installing a small 5 cm zipper on your belly-button seems to work pretty well as well (wearing the whole setup underneath the suit). Is the setup on the V2 something like this?JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #62 October 24, 2008 >But in your picture you have orange for the first two, but black where those diagonal stripes would >be. Is this also a change from the proto to production? Correct, production change. You can ask for yours to be the same color as the suit body if you wish, drop us an email with the colors you're after. >Is this a last minute production model addition or were some of the V3 protos equipped with this >system? In other words, has this cutaway system been thoroughly tested on the V3 in the BASE >environment? The last 2 pre production V3s have had the cut away system, it works great. The system requires less maintenance than the old version as the cables stay cleaner for longer. >With 6-10 weeks delivery time, I'm rationalizing to myself that an impulse order today is really an >exercise in delayed gratification... There are already a lot of orders so it is more likely 11 weeks for the US. Your call, but at least you’d have it ready for the new season. >The "belly cam strap openings" option - is there any loss of pressurization/performance by having >these put in? I love the belly cam perspective on proxy flying videos so definitely would like to have >them as a future option, but not if there's any significant tradeoff in performance. These are two Velcro closed slots on both sides of the suit body that allow you to wear a belly cam. No performance loss when not in use. > installing a small 5 cm zipper on your belly-button seems to work pretty well as well (wearing the >whole setup underneath the suit). True, as long as the slot allows for movement during deployment. The system Robi uses wouldn’t work with the zip though. He has the camera flat on a plate that sits on the stomach (no arm). JBASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #63 October 25, 2008 First I am very intrigued by the attachment system...can't see it. Interesting things I can see are a) Based on the amount of Orange(leading edge) I am guessing that the wing of this suit is 'thinner' compared to older models(attached pic of V1). Compared to Phantom(thickest part of the wing was 7" on mine and about 11" for the V2) and it also looks like the arm portion of the wing is not designed to inflate. Tony? James? b) The inlet runs from the shoulder to the MLW hole and is air locked? That is a HUGE inlet but otherwise the same concept as a V1? Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #64 October 25, 2008 Yes, the arm sleeve shape is dictated by the semi rigid leading edge and arm tension. The arm inlet is different to the old V1 design - as shown in the photos. It is air locked tapered scoop design placed lower down on the bottom skin. The inlet is more efficient in this position, working at more angles and allows for cleaner air flow over the arm leading edge.BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmkellett 0 #65 October 27, 2008 So come on then Kris buddy are we gonna order V3's and go on a WS base mission next northern hemisphere summer? Im getting tired of the permanent sunny days here and perfect skydiving weather, I miss the european walls alot and am not able to go another season without a flight from my favourite wall.... what do you say? enough talk lets go base jumping buddy.... D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #66 October 27, 2008 Quote Quote Everyone who has demoed the suit to date has been very impressed from the 1st jump. Even a few guys that post here have tried it Tony? Yes, very impressed. PF has outdone themselves again and raised the level of high-performance WS. I'm excited enough that when I get it I'll begin training on it in whatever silly-low temps we'll have here at the time. Hey, where did you demo one? Me and you are the same size unless I am confused. 6'2", 175 lb? Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winznut 0 #67 October 28, 2008 QuoteMe and you are the same size unless I am confused. 6'2", 175 lb? Kris I hate you...both! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #68 October 28, 2008 Quote Quote Me and you are the same size unless I am confused. 6'2", 175 lb? Kris I hate you...both! Yea..me too.. Non-metric people are gayJC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #69 October 28, 2008 non metric vendors got sued in London. Did you just call all Americans gay? Darren, Very tempted to order V3. Would be nice to do a month to six week trip of the big Walls. I totally miss the hiking. Drop me an email dude. 3-2-1-order v3 Kris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winznut 0 #70 October 28, 2008 Quote Yea..me too.. Non-metric people are gay Nah, just because nature punished me with 5'9"@200lb... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #71 October 28, 2008 Quote Quote Yea..me too.. Non-metric people are gay Nah, just because nature punished me with 5'9"@200lb... It's too many pies that punish you with extra weight, not nature. Don't hear any athletes moaning that they would have won the race if they weren't so heavy, do ya?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #72 October 28, 2008 what if the dude is all muscle? weight equals speed. I was 200 lb in that yellow v1 pic. 30ish secs from exit to reach the LZ at ITW(1st jump) You order a V3 jakee? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #73 October 28, 2008 Quote what if the dude is all muscle? Then it's still him that's done that and not nature. My point was simply that this is a sport, if you think your physique is wrong then change it. Can't control your height but you can control your weight and condition. I'm in no position to talk really, my fitness is horrific at the moment, but I should have long enough to work on that before the new toy arrives Quote You order a V3 jakee? Certainly didDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr027 0 #74 October 29, 2008 Quote Hey, where did you demo one? Me and you are the same size unless I am confused. 6'2", 175 lb? Kris Yes, we're the same size. I demoed direct from the manufacturer, oddly enough. But I did like the V2 and flew it almost exclusively for the past 200ish WS jumps, so maybe it still comes down to preference on whether you will like the next Vampire."The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #75 October 29, 2008 1) Is there mylar or other stiffeners in the arm wing? 2)Its a zip in suit, no more cables correct? 3)Is the little diagonal patch of fabric on the #1 cell next to the MLW penetration on the website JPG the air inlet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
