aarthus 0 #1 May 15, 2008 http://www.pressurized.at/index.php?id=12&L=0 all new !Patrick de Guillebon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airowpoint 0 #2 May 15, 2008 It´s not that new, but I don´t think anyone has seen/flown one for real yet. Anyone? Apparently it incorporates an external catheter device so you can go pipi on the extreme long flights http://www.pressurized.at/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=uploads%2Fpics%2Ftrigger_inlet.jpg&width=800m&height=600m&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20bgcolor%3D%22black%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B%22%3E%20%7C%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=c714797a3ae2f06b780f51318081f768 Tristan Will you answer "NO" to my next question? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portillo 0 #3 May 15, 2008 andi was at ITW the same weekend, when the "stane brithday big way" happened. he used his old prototype of the trigger, cuz the new and modified version he made was sent to a customer. i think elamarillo can say a bit more about the suit, they did a few 2 ways and he also got very nice footage. andY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aarthus 0 #4 May 15, 2008 QuoteIt´s not that new I know, we saw the proto in zell am See in nov 2006Patrick de Guillebon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portillo 0 #5 May 15, 2008 that was a very old prototype. it was me u saw. drop him a mail if u wanna have more info on the latest modifications. andY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boachanoff 0 #6 May 15, 2008 Andy was jumping all the time whit his Trigger in ITW during the easter-thing i have in on video somewhere.Every time he was high above the landing aria.it is a such a good suit Paco Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #7 May 15, 2008 Where some suits 'echo' other manufacturers designs, this one does ring a particularly strong bell in my head, almost making me point at it and saying "cool..is that a V...."JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #8 May 15, 2008 Quote almost making me point at it and saying "cool..is that a V...." But what about this statement: "A unique vertical stabilizer has been incorporated into the suit to keep the back spoiler at a defined distance to the leg wing." I am guessing this is what they are referring to: http://www.pressurized.at/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=uploads%2Fpics%2Ftrigger_inlet.jpg&width=800m&height=600m&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20bgcolor%3D%22black%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B%22%3E%20%7C%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=c714797a3ae2f06b780f51318081f768 It does open the door though to some funny comments though.. "You need a measurement of What??" Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #9 May 15, 2008 Quote Where some suits 'echo' other manufacturers designs, this one does ring a particularly strong bell in my head, almost making me point at it and saying "cool..is that a V...." I hear you. Wait until you see Atairs "new" design known as the Aerosuit(TM) that was shown at the NY Met recently. The suit and the rigid wing they had on display make air sirens go off in your head."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #10 May 15, 2008 Quote Quote Where some suits 'echo' other manufacturers designs, this one does ring a particularly strong bell in my head, almost making me point at it and saying "cool..is that a V...." I hear you. Wait until you see Atairs "new" design known as the Aerosuit(TM) that was shown at the NY Met recently. The suit and the rigid wing they had on display make air sirens go off in your head. http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/metwingsuitdisplay.jpgSkydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portillo 0 #11 May 15, 2008 why would you spend 180 hours to sew a wingsuit by your own, if you could just copy it?! that would be too stupid, don´t ya think?! andY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #12 May 15, 2008 Quote I hear you. Wait until you see Atairs "new" design known as the Aerosuit(TM) that was shown at the NY Met recently. The suit and the rigid wing they had on display make air sirens go off in your head. Yea..Id already seen those.. The rigid thing is a hybrid copy of Yves wing and Skyray. And the Atair suit (white) looks like an S3/Firebird copy. There's some new items up with pix for those interested. http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/14/exo-wing-is-worlds-smallest-jet-worn-like-a-backpack/JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeemax 0 #13 May 15, 2008 That white suit looks exactly like an S1...Phoenix Fly - High performance wingsuits for skydiving and BASE Performance Designs - Simply brilliant canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhoenixRising 0 #14 May 15, 2008 Quote Where some suits 'echo' other manufacturers designs, this one does ring a particularly strong bell in my head, almost making me point at it and saying "cool..is that a V...." or you could say it looks like an S....................8!!! JustinWingsuit organizing, first flight courses and coaching Flock University Tonysuits Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #15 May 15, 2008 Quote or you could say it looks like an S....................8!!! Not really...as the trigger and V's seem to have a legwing thats sized accordingly to get the forward drive matching the size of the armwingsJC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclecharlie95 3 #16 May 15, 2008 QuoteWait until you see Atairs "new" design known as the Aerosuit(TM) that was shown at the NY Met recently. Just to clarify this is Atair USA (Dan Preston) and NOT Atair Canopies from Slovenia (who make Troll,Radical, Trango, Dragon, OSP canopies etc). Long story but they are 2 different companies..BASEstore.it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony-tonysuits 0 #17 May 15, 2008 QuoteQuoteWait until you see Atairs "new" design known as the Aerosuit(TM) that was shown at the NY Met recently. Just to clarify this is Atair USA (Dan Preston) and NOT Atair Canopies from Slovenia (who make Troll,Radical, Trango, Dragon, OSP canopies etc). Long story but they are 2 different companies.. why would a company making fabric based items call there company a tear?Life is a series of wonderful opportunities, brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. tonysuits.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #18 May 15, 2008 The name "Altaïr" is Arabic for "the Flying", from the phrase الطير. The spelling "Atair" is also used frequently. The name was given by Arabic astronomers and adopted by Western astronomers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltairDaniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
portillo 0 #19 May 16, 2008 just got this link. it´s hupsi in a V2 and andi in his old trigger proto @ ITW. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmHKfLzQR3I&feature=user andY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outrager 6 #20 May 16, 2008 From Pressurized web site: "For flexibility reasons, Team Air Paranoia uses mostly helicopters to launch BASE jumps from." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #21 May 16, 2008 Quote From Pressurized web site: "For flexibility reasons, Team Air Paranoia uses mostly helicopters to launch BASE jumps from." Does a helicoptor-based launch platform represent a B, A, S, or an E? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #22 May 16, 2008 Quote Quote From Pressurized web site: "For flexibility reasons, Team Air Paranoia uses mostly helicopters to launch BASE jumps from." Does a helicoptor-based launch platform represent a B, A, S, or an E? Sean Connery could get away with it, he'd be going BASHE jumping anyway.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #23 May 16, 2008 Quote Quote From Pressurized web site: "For flexibility reasons, Team Air Paranoia uses mostly helicopters to launch BASE jumps from." Does a helicoptor-based launch platform represent a B, A, S, or an E? maybe "o" for other... but a whirly bird isnot a fixed object, lolLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #24 May 19, 2008 In starting Atair’s primary backer was FESTO, one of the world’s largest privately held automation companies. Having their core technology in pneumatics they have the wonderful motto ‘anything air’. Around the same time that Festo backed Atair they also funded the Swiss company Prospective Concepts. Atair Aerospace and PC had simultaneous developments of wingsuits. Yves Rossi was the talented stunt man who worked with PC on testing their wingsuit. The PC “flying man” suit utilized pneumatic unfolding wing tips. After the PC project ended I believe Yves continued on his own, to build a version which replaced the unfolding inflatable tips with rigid ones. http://www.prospective-concepts.ch/html/site_en.htm Atair continued strictly on Government projects. Now Yves Rossy being a stunt man and equally talented promoter is able to publicize things that I only wish Atair could. Atair Aerospace is a U.S. Government prime Contractor. We are prevented from publicaly releasing any details, video’s, photographs, on contracts without receiving prior permission from our government customers. For obvious reasons our government does not like to disclose information on what special equipment our operatives are using or who makes them. Much of what we produce for the Army we receive permission to disclose, however for most other agencies we do not. The wingsuits that we have on display at the Smithsonian and now Metropolitan Museum actually have subtle changes made to them over any possible Government versions in production. Btw the Aerodynamicist and co-designer on the x-wing is Barnaby Wainfan of Northrup Grumman. A few of his unclassified assignments include: • Flight mechanics lead for US Air Force Hybrid Launch Vehicle program. • Aerodynamics lead for Joint Unmanned Combat Air System (JUCAS): responsible for X-47B air vehicle aerodynamic design, testing and analysis. • Aerodynamic consultant to the F-35 program addressing issues concerning abrupt wing stall (AWS) and high-speed flying qualities. • Wind tunnel testing and control effector design for Northrop Grumman X-47A Pegasus UAV • F/A-18 E/F Transonic flying qualities enhancement. • NASA Space launch Initiative aerodynamics and vehicle concept development. • Aerodynamics/Aerothermal IPT Lead for the SA-1 airbreathing space-launch vehicle demonstrator. • Led team that designed and tested in sub-scale form an advanced ram-wing scout vehicle. • Configuration team co-leader for AFX concept development. Aerodynamic design, configuration synthesis and wind-tunnel testing of Northrop AFX concept. • Aerodynamic wing design for MALD (Miniature Air-Launched Decoy) vehicle. • Wing design lead for the Tier II+ high-altitude long-endurance UAV. • Aerodynamic design and testing of configurations and control effectors for the JAST/ Joint Strike Fighter • Configuration synthesis, aerodynamic design and wind tunnel testing of the ALF/ ASTOVL light fighter. Barnaby is recognized as one if not the worlds leading expert on flying wing design. As to the soft wingsuit on display. It’s constructed of our inventive 3dz fabric, a non woven engineered polyethylene fabric. http://www.atairaerospace.com/parachutes/composite/ Given that I was born into this industry watching Stane, Robert and Jari produce Wingsuits, it was only a mater of time before I decided to test out my own ideas. At first glance the planform is similar to Robert’s SF3, however the suits are considerably different. The inflated shape airfoils and rear deflector are radically different. Most of my effort over the last few years has been going into optimizing the drag cause by the center portion of ones body and pack. This is primary area which is aerodynamically imperfect on every wingsuit (except Jii) and where I believe the most significant improvements can be made. Blue Skies.Daniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #25 May 19, 2008 QuoteThe wingsuits that we have on display at the Smithsonian and now Metropolitan Museum actually have subtle changes made to them over any possible Government versions in production. The times where one lone soldier got dropped over a jungle with just a single knife as his survival kit and weapons system seems to have ended with Rambo 2? Though Id love to see wingsuits as a big militairy dicipline, where would they come into use in a real world situation? Doesnt a canopy/paraglider always win in terms of payload and flying range?JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites