tetra316 0 #1 August 26, 2008 What do you all think of this canopy for use with wingsuiting? Any experience? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr027 0 #2 August 26, 2008 I think Ed/bodypilot1 @ WestCoast Wingsuits would be able to give you lots of input on that situation."The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. " -John Galt from Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones 0 #3 August 26, 2008 If Ed can't help, check with Kris. As I recall she does/did jump a canopy with the "hot dogs" on the top. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicrussell 0 #4 August 26, 2008 I have a friend who regularly jumps a nitron with no problems so far in his phantom, v2, or acro. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #5 August 26, 2008 QuoteIf Ed can't help, check with Kris. As I recall she does/did jump a canopy with the "hot dogs" on the top. "hot dogs"??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #6 August 26, 2008 Millertimeunc jumps a nitron 170 with his Phantom2 you may want to pm him. From what he tells me the nitron is a fantastic canopy.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #7 August 26, 2008 http://aerostore.com/images/precision/Nitron_23.gif They have these really cool "Winglets" On the Promo page they state the following: The Winglets It is quite common for a non-Nitron jumper to ask about the winglets, and without trying to get into any kind of aerodynamic psycho-babble about wind tunnel analyses and such, suffice it to say that these oddball looking appendages on the upper surface work to help reduce the stall speed of the wing, allowing you to make more walk-on landings and fewer landings where you demonstrate the sprint-slide-tumble technique. "He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matto765 0 #8 August 26, 2008 I've seen at least 2 people wingsuit regularly with nitrons and they have never had a problem with them. They seem to open stable enough for wingsuiting. I guess it also depends on how small of a nitron you want, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertimeunc 0 #9 August 26, 2008 I jump a 170 Nitron loaded at 1.3 for wingsuiting. My only recommendation is to not roll the tail too much unless you like a long snivel. Other than that, it opens soft and on heading, behaves well in line twists, is fun to fly, and has great slow flight characteristics and landings. The best things in life are dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCaptain 2 #10 August 26, 2008 Hi Tetra: while I can not answer your direct question, I can say that jumping an elliptical canopy when wingsuiting is not recommended. That is not to say people don't it just means they understand that when things go wrong(and eventually they will) it will go wrong a whole lot faster with an elliptical canopy. The real issue is how the canopy will fly in line twist? When I flew Crossfires, I noticed that in line twist it would point to the ground so I would open at 4500 ft AGL (to give myself time to deal with the canopy). While my current canopy may be far from the recommended (especially after my last openning ), I personally find that my VX flies well in line twist. In the end I would reccomend two things: 1) Fly a canopy you can stand up the landing with as wingsuits do not wear well with sliding in. 2) Borrow a rectangle canopy for your first 25 jumps to get down the pull (as per your DZ's policy) After your first 25 wingsuit jumps, if you can stand up your Katana and feel comfortable with it just jump it. I know Steve (manbird) did jump a Katana. And, oh yeah, Welcome to the Nylon Crack Kirk He's dead Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtholmes 0 #11 August 27, 2008 my skydive set up is a Nitron 135. i weigh 175 pounds. i find it to be pretty sweet for any sort of clothing, shorts, jeans, S-fly expert, V2, track pants. i think i got some line twists once or twice, but it was no big deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Costyn 1 #12 August 27, 2008 Our German friend Oliver (don't remember his handle on dz.com) jumps a Nitron as well, doesn't seem to have many problems with it. I don't know what size it is, though.Costyn van Dongen - http://www.flylikebrick.com/ - World Wide Wingsuit News Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #13 August 27, 2008 I haven't wingsuited for a LONG time but when i started Chris Martin was the first person to recommend a Nitron to me for ws jumps. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #14 August 27, 2008 Quote Our German friend Oliver (don't remember his handle on dz.com) jumps a Nitron as well, doesn't seem to have many problems with it. I know quite a few people jumping tiny, HP monsters, totaly non-suitable for wingsuit flying. And some get away with it. Some dont. odd are, you'll see your reserve a lot less on a more suitable canopy thoughJC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #15 August 27, 2008 QuoteI know quite a few people jumping tiny, HP monsters, totaly non-suitable for wingsuit flying. And some get away with it. Some dont. I bought a Triathlon 160 for WS. It does not swoop long and if its a little wind I can just step down, so no need for unzipping legs and its opening clean, nice and fast, so I can deploy <900 without any second thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #16 August 27, 2008 QuoteI haven't wingsuited for a LONG time but when i started Chris Martin was the first person to recommend a Nitron to me for ws jumps. Chris Martin jumped the piss out of the Nitron in his wingsuit. Man I miss that dude."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #17 August 27, 2008 Hey Kirk I'm pretty sure you know my dz's policy which is probably none in the case I was told the Nitro/Nitron was like a Sabre2, maybe slightly higher performance but I've never seen one let alone jumped one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCaptain 2 #18 August 27, 2008 Well, I am not sure if SDO still maintains the policy but at one time they did require 25 wingsuit jump prior to jumping an elliptical with a wingsuit. I always thought the Nitron was Precsion answer to the crossfire. I took this from the gear forum here: The Nitron (9-cell ZP elliptical) is Precision's version of the high-performance original design by Klaus Schenk that is marketed in Europe under the trade name of Nitro by the designer's company, Profile Research. The first time we jumped the Nitro, we knew immediately that we didn't want to compete with this remarkable canopy, we wanted to manufacture and market it by integrating it into the Ground Zero project.Kirk He's dead Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #19 August 27, 2008 Hello Tara The Nitron/Nitro is a great ws canopy. I have over 3000 ws jumps on the Nitron 108/98's I have, with only 1 spinning cutaway caused from a rushed trash pack to get home from Thailand. I'm about 190 out the door so they are loaded pretty heavily. You saw me jumping one last weekend at the Boogie. PM me if you have any more questions. www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCaptain 2 #20 August 27, 2008 You know Ed, I think my VX is a great canopy for wingsuit flying provided it never again opens as hard as it did on my jump demoing that RaptorI am having to grow a beard until my neck heals up enough to shave Kirk He's dead Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #21 August 27, 2008 Quote You know Ed, I think my VX is a great canopy for wingsuit flying provided it never again opens as hard as it did on my jump demoing that RaptorI am having to grow a beard until my neck heals up enough to shave It was body position..... I jumped my 80VX for a few WS jumps and found they opened rather fast and unpredictable. Heal fast, Buddy www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johan420 0 #22 August 27, 2008 nitro is the shit......look how fast top fuel racers are.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #23 August 28, 2008 QuoteI haven't wingsuited for a LONG time but when i started Chris Martin was the first person to recommend a Nitron to me for ws jumps. Funny, Chris told me I should be under a Xaos-21 with my wingsuit. I would love a Xaos just not with my wingsuit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #24 August 28, 2008 How many W/S jumps did you have on your Nitron before you ditched it? I got mine based on how much you liked yours at the time. But I absolutely hated the canopy (120 @ 1.6) and got rid of it PDQ. I seriously doubt I would have liked it any better loaded at 2:1 like Ed. Most people seem to like the Nitron for regular and W/S jumps. Not everyone though.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #25 August 29, 2008 QuoteQuoteI haven't wingsuited for a LONG time but when i started Chris Martin was the first person to recommend a Nitron to me for ws jumps. Funny, Chris told me I should be under a Xaos-21 with my wingsuit. I would love a Xaos just not with my wingsuit. Granted i did have just 200 jumps when you took me on my WS FJC and about 230 when i met Chris and jumped with him. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
