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lurch 0
Thanks for the positive responses, all of you. Guess I'm not the only one feels that way.
Kralovec, just you wait. If its your ambition to get into wingsuit, well, you got no idea the adventure waiting for you. It does take time to learn the ninja tricks needed for some of the more surreal experiences wingsuit flying has to offer, but its worth the wait.
The first time you exit, spread your wings and just...stop...falling is beyond description.
The first time you fly up to a cloud and surf the entire 2 mile high wall of it, ducking in and out of tufts and canyons as you go, will blow your mind. To this day I still come down jumping up and down and screaming sometimes. Its that good. I'm told they call it the "Lurch debrief." Its the one time I lose my cool and I'm ok with that.
And of course theres "Quiet Mode". Lowest possible fallrate. You'll know it when you hit it...it feels exultant. The windblast dies off to nothing in your ears. If you jump a camera it will show on tape as nothing but a quiet hissing sound. You just sort of hang there. You won't cover 6 miles that way but you can have a ridiculously prolonged cloudsurf if you set it up right.
Enjoy the next hundred jumps or so. They'll be a hell of an adventure in and of themselves. Fly a slightly oversized canopy. You won't regret it. I spent my first 700 wingsuit jumps packing a Sabre2 170 loaded at .9 and that huge security blanket saved my ass, got me back from more impossible long shots than I can tell, and bought me time to figure things out when my judgement sucked.
Fly safe.
-B
Kralovec, just you wait. If its your ambition to get into wingsuit, well, you got no idea the adventure waiting for you. It does take time to learn the ninja tricks needed for some of the more surreal experiences wingsuit flying has to offer, but its worth the wait.
The first time you exit, spread your wings and just...stop...falling is beyond description.
The first time you fly up to a cloud and surf the entire 2 mile high wall of it, ducking in and out of tufts and canyons as you go, will blow your mind. To this day I still come down jumping up and down and screaming sometimes. Its that good. I'm told they call it the "Lurch debrief." Its the one time I lose my cool and I'm ok with that.
And of course theres "Quiet Mode". Lowest possible fallrate. You'll know it when you hit it...it feels exultant. The windblast dies off to nothing in your ears. If you jump a camera it will show on tape as nothing but a quiet hissing sound. You just sort of hang there. You won't cover 6 miles that way but you can have a ridiculously prolonged cloudsurf if you set it up right.
Enjoy the next hundred jumps or so. They'll be a hell of an adventure in and of themselves. Fly a slightly oversized canopy. You won't regret it. I spent my first 700 wingsuit jumps packing a Sabre2 170 loaded at .9 and that huge security blanket saved my ass, got me back from more impossible long shots than I can tell, and bought me time to figure things out when my judgement sucked.
Fly safe.
-B
Live and learn... or die, and teach by example.
Well well well... I leave my little brainless chicken in this little cage for a couple of weeks and this is what I see when I check back: one erected a giant pile of shit under himself and is sitting on it like on a throne, while a bunch of others are singing alleluia to him; another one is bouncing around in all this shit (apparently, he just likes to bounce); yet others are just barking in the general direction. What a picture! 
Well, no so long ago I voiced a hypothesis (only a humble hypothesis, not a bold theorem) in reply to a picture of a flock of fish that looked very much like that Grid Of Hopeless Bananas gloriously called World Record. I drew a parallel between level of intelligence (or more precisely, the lack of it) and the herd behavior of flockers of any kind, be it fish, sheep, geese, or f10ckers.
Today I realized that I made a scientific breakthrough of the millenium in biology. It was long noticed that flocks behave as if they had one body... one mind... one brain. Bingo! One brain for all participants!!! The sum of all fish, sheep, geese or f10ckers brains is equivalent to one brain of free-roaming individual of the same kind. The rest of the brain is simply filled with vacuum... the burble... or perhaps The Grid. 
How come it took me so much time to realize such a simple thing?! Stupid me! I did some f10cking in the beginning, that's probably why. Thankfully, not more than 5% of my WS jumps were wasted on this brainless activity. But now that I'll receive Nobel Prize in biology, I'll donate it to research of these phenomenal living organisms that look like human but have only 1/70th of a normal brain.
Yuri
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lurch 0
Yuri, What exactly is wrong with you, anyway? I can't figure it out myself, but my first guess would be, A Lot.
I mean really...back when you were a wannabe wingsuit pilot you had such a positive attitude. Now its like I wonder did you have some traumatic flock experience, went to Florida and Chuck Blue pissed in your wheaties one day or something, (an act that, now that I think about it, I wouldn't put past him if you fucked with him). I mean what was it? You got gangraped by a bunch of wingsuiters dressed in pony suits? Play under powerlines too much as a kid? Late night sneaky uncle? One too many servings of paint chips with extra lead?
Reading your stuff is kind of gruesome but entertaining, like watching someone repeatedly stabbing themselves in the forehead with a dull pencil. I know its not going to be fatal or even do all that much damage really, but I can't help thinking "God, thats gotta hurt..."
-B
I mean really...back when you were a wannabe wingsuit pilot you had such a positive attitude. Now its like I wonder did you have some traumatic flock experience, went to Florida and Chuck Blue pissed in your wheaties one day or something, (an act that, now that I think about it, I wouldn't put past him if you fucked with him). I mean what was it? You got gangraped by a bunch of wingsuiters dressed in pony suits? Play under powerlines too much as a kid? Late night sneaky uncle? One too many servings of paint chips with extra lead?
Reading your stuff is kind of gruesome but entertaining, like watching someone repeatedly stabbing themselves in the forehead with a dull pencil. I know its not going to be fatal or even do all that much damage really, but I can't help thinking "God, thats gotta hurt..."
-B
Live and learn... or die, and teach by example.
QuoteYuri, What exactly is wrong with you, anyway? I can't figure it out myself, but my first guess would be, A Lot.
I mean really...back when you were a wannabe wingsuit pilot you had such a positive attitude. Now its like I wonder did you have some traumatic flock experience, went to Florida and Chuck Blue pissed in your wheaties one day or something, (an act that, now that I think about it, I wouldn't put past him if you fucked with him). I mean what was it? You got gangraped by a bunch of wingsuiters dressed in pony suits? Play under powerlines too much as a kid? Late night sneaky uncle? One too many servings of paint chips with extra lead?
Reading your stuff is kind of gruesome but entertaining, like watching someone repeatedly stabbing themselves in the forehead with a dull pencil. I know its not going to be fatal or even do all that much damage really, but I can't help thinking "God, thats gotta hurt..."
-B
Lurch you need to start a blog. This stuff is too good to get lost in forum threads.
and you owe me a new keyboard...
MarkM 0
QuoteIs everyone an asshole when it comes to newbies?
Are freefalling bigways or solos all they get offered?
I was talking about 3-4 ways at the DZ on days when only 3-4 wingsuiters show up.
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Whats wrong with 3, 4, 5 ways with flyers all flying with him/her to up their skills, untill the noob is a noob no more, and they can safely fly at skill/accuracy and performance levels needed for bigger stuff?
It's not just skill. In my old Mach 1 I can average 2 mins FF time. Got to play with a s-bird demo over the weekend that doesn't fit right and a few jumps into it I'm pulling 3 mins easy. And the s-bird has more drive to boot.
We got a guy at the DZ with a S6, has hundred of wingsuits jumps and there's no way he could keep up with me in the s-bird unless I flew it "sloppy".
Nothing at all wrong with putting together ways for maxed out glides, but for the OP to criticize guys flying legs bent when they're probably do that for the flock is bullshit.
It's absolutely frustrating being that guy, maxed out and not being able to catch the guy 6 inches taller, 20 pounds lighter and who owns a suit 2 generations newer than yours. Personally I think those people being able to shut it down and fly in next to the fatties is the real show of skill.
mccordia 74
Flying to the best performance or even just 2/3 of the least flyer, is a whole different thing than the lesser flyer doing freefall and everyone adapting to that one.
The urge to get everyone to fly their best, not even always, but striving for improvement, often is mistaken for being an asshole.
Somehow its not seen as an urge to improve, but rather like bitching and critisising past achievements.
Im always flying with everyone, and wont ever skip or ditch a flock or flyer for his build or skill.
But if gay smiles are the only thing one is allowed to take from a jump and improve on, its for sure the way to have our dicipline grind to a halt in terms of development in skills and achievements...
Andreea just made a really nice post on this exact same subject.
We are one of the most emotive diciplines (ment in an extremly good way), all about experiencing the love of fun and flying.
Its a shame that same emotional attachment to 'our' flying makes an objective look at where we should/could go imposdible for a lot of people.
Only a year ago, the people with the loudest voice against official validation with regards to bigways, are now the ones pushing their validation method for worldwide acceptance...
The people telling others to not comment, are now the ones doind the opposite...
Dont be afraid to see where we can improve..together...
Its the objective view that has us grow in terms in safety, skill, performance and most of all...fun!
The urge to get everyone to fly their best, not even always, but striving for improvement, often is mistaken for being an asshole.
Somehow its not seen as an urge to improve, but rather like bitching and critisising past achievements.
Im always flying with everyone, and wont ever skip or ditch a flock or flyer for his build or skill.
But if gay smiles are the only thing one is allowed to take from a jump and improve on, its for sure the way to have our dicipline grind to a halt in terms of development in skills and achievements...
Andreea just made a really nice post on this exact same subject.
We are one of the most emotive diciplines (ment in an extremly good way), all about experiencing the love of fun and flying.
Its a shame that same emotional attachment to 'our' flying makes an objective look at where we should/could go imposdible for a lot of people.
Only a year ago, the people with the loudest voice against official validation with regards to bigways, are now the ones pushing their validation method for worldwide acceptance...
The people telling others to not comment, are now the ones doind the opposite...
Dont be afraid to see where we can improve..together...
Its the objective view that has us grow in terms in safety, skill, performance and most of all...fun!
JC
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fasted3 0
Good post Mark, and I agree with you. Even if a guy likes zooming around at top speed, by himself, which I do, there is no reason to scoff and slight the efforts and skills of others.
Different jumps have different goals, but as long as they're all fun, (Yuri,) why sit on the sidelines and belittle those doing what you can't or don't want to do?
Your posts seem particularly sour in light of the positive recognition FLOCKING has recently brought to our sport.
But... fly like you want, just have some fun, and cheer up.
Different jumps have different goals, but as long as they're all fun, (Yuri,) why sit on the sidelines and belittle those doing what you can't or don't want to do?
Your posts seem particularly sour in light of the positive recognition FLOCKING has recently brought to our sport.
But... fly like you want, just have some fun, and cheer up.
But what do I know?
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Andreea just made a really nice post on this exact same subject.
We are one of the most emotive diciplines (ment in an extremly good way), all about experiencing the love of fun and flying.
Its a shame that same emotional attachment to 'our' flying makes an objective look at where we should/could go imposdible for a lot of people.
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Dont be afraid to see where we can improve..together...
Its the objective view that has us grow in terms in safety, skill, performance and most of all...fun!
aaand clicky
Watching one of the formation loads from underneath the exit point at the end of the lake it is evident that the late divers in the first plane have the furthest to fly to the formation, asuming no stagering of the exit count between planes.
What's really eveident is you guys are arguing about stupid shit....
We had the planes fly differently this year, so the base flew only about 60 degrees of the line of flight.
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